Tricks. If ${x_n}$ converges, then Cesaro Mean converges (S.A. pp 50 2.3.11)
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Show if ${x_n}$ is a convergent sequence, then the sequences given by the averages ${dfrac{x_1 + x_2 + ... + x_n}{n}}$ converges to the same limit. (Not a duplicate)
Let $epsilon>0$ be arbitrary. Then need to find an $N in mathbb{N}$ s.t. $n geq N implies |frac{x_1 + x_2 + ... + x_n}{n} - L|< epsilon quad (♫)$.
Question posits $(x_{n}) to mathrm{L}$, ergo there exists $M in mathbb{N}$ such that $n ge M implies |x_{n}-L|< M quad (♪)$.
Also, there exists an $C$ such that $n ge C implies |x_{n}-L|< e/2 quad (☺)$.
1. Where does (☺) issue from? Did solution rewrite M in (♪) as C? How to presage $e/2$ ?
Cesaro means is $dfrac{a_1 + ... + a_n }{n }$. n is fixed, Ergo how can we choose $K$?
1.1. Doesn't the same argument prove all the terms can be bounded? Why simply 'the early terms in the averages can be bounded' ? Please expatiate on "Because the original sequence is convergent, we suspect that we can bound ... we will be breaking the limit in two at the end" ?
I still don't understand how "we suspect" these bounds?
Now for all $n ge C$, we can write
2. How to presage to rewrite $color{red}{L = nL/n}?$
Why 'we would like to compare each term to the limit' ?
3. How to presage presciently to split the sum between $x_{C - 1}$ and $x_C$ ?
By the agency of Triangle Inequality myriad times,
$begin{align}
le & color{green}{(left| x_{1}-Lright| +ldots +left| x_{c-1}-Lright|)} dfrac {1} {n} & + color{brown}{( left| x_{C}-Lright| +ldots +left| x_{n}-Lright|)} dfrac {1} {n} \
~ & color{green}{text{Each of these (C - 1) terms < M by (♪)} } & color{brown}{ text{ Each of these (n - c) terms < e/2 by (☺) }} \
& color{green}{█ < (C - 1)M}frac{1}{n} & + color{brown}{frac{e}{2}(n - c)}frac{1}{n} \
end{align}$
Because C and M are fixed constants at this point, we may choose $N_2$ so that
$color{green}{(C - 1)M}frac{1}{n} < e/2$ for all $n ge N_2$. Finally, let $N$ in $(♫)$ be $max{C, N_2}$. Because $C > 0$, $n - C < n iff color{magenta}{frac{n - C}{n}} < 1$.
4. Why are we sanctioned to choose $N_2$ so that $color{green}{(C - 1)M}frac{1}{n} < e/2$? I know this behaves.
5. Shouldn't the last line underneath have $<$, by dint of the line with $color{green}{█}$ (two lines before 4.) ?
$le color{green}{(C - 1)M}frac{1}{n} + frac{e}{2}color{magenta}{frac{n - C}{n}} < e/2 + e/2color{magenta}{(1)}$.
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Show if ${x_n}$ is a convergent sequence, then the sequences given by the averages ${dfrac{x_1 + x_2 + ... + x_n}{n}}$ converges to the same limit. (Not a duplicate)
Let $epsilon>0$ be arbitrary. Then need to find an $N in mathbb{N}$ s.t. $n geq N implies |frac{x_1 + x_2 + ... + x_n}{n} - L|< epsilon quad (♫)$.
Question posits $(x_{n}) to mathrm{L}$, ergo there exists $M in mathbb{N}$ such that $n ge M implies |x_{n}-L|< M quad (♪)$.
Also, there exists an $C$ such that $n ge C implies |x_{n}-L|< e/2 quad (☺)$.
1. Where does (☺) issue from? Did solution rewrite M in (♪) as C? How to presage $e/2$ ?
Cesaro means is $dfrac{a_1 + ... + a_n }{n }$. n is fixed, Ergo how can we choose $K$?
1.1. Doesn't the same argument prove all the terms can be bounded? Why simply 'the early terms in the averages can be bounded' ? Please expatiate on "Because the original sequence is convergent, we suspect that we can bound ... we will be breaking the limit in two at the end" ?
I still don't understand how "we suspect" these bounds?
Now for all $n ge C$, we can write
2. How to presage to rewrite $color{red}{L = nL/n}?$
Why 'we would like to compare each term to the limit' ?
3. How to presage presciently to split the sum between $x_{C - 1}$ and $x_C$ ?
By the agency of Triangle Inequality myriad times,
$begin{align}
le & color{green}{(left| x_{1}-Lright| +ldots +left| x_{c-1}-Lright|)} dfrac {1} {n} & + color{brown}{( left| x_{C}-Lright| +ldots +left| x_{n}-Lright|)} dfrac {1} {n} \
~ & color{green}{text{Each of these (C - 1) terms < M by (♪)} } & color{brown}{ text{ Each of these (n - c) terms < e/2 by (☺) }} \
& color{green}{█ < (C - 1)M}frac{1}{n} & + color{brown}{frac{e}{2}(n - c)}frac{1}{n} \
end{align}$
Because C and M are fixed constants at this point, we may choose $N_2$ so that
$color{green}{(C - 1)M}frac{1}{n} < e/2$ for all $n ge N_2$. Finally, let $N$ in $(♫)$ be $max{C, N_2}$. Because $C > 0$, $n - C < n iff color{magenta}{frac{n - C}{n}} < 1$.
4. Why are we sanctioned to choose $N_2$ so that $color{green}{(C - 1)M}frac{1}{n} < e/2$? I know this behaves.
5. Shouldn't the last line underneath have $<$, by dint of the line with $color{green}{█}$ (two lines before 4.) ?
$le color{green}{(C - 1)M}frac{1}{n} + frac{e}{2}color{magenta}{frac{n - C}{n}} < e/2 + e/2color{magenta}{(1)}$.
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2/3: Why should this be presaged? Anyway it shoul dbe intuoitively clear that one has to distinguish "early" from "late" terms in that the early ones are arbitrary and the late ones are already somewhat close to $L$.
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– Hagen von Eitzen
Feb 16 '14 at 18:20
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2: You don't need to. Since everything is lnear here, it may be a heuristically good idea to start with / reduce to the case $L=0$.
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– Hagen von Eitzen
Feb 16 '14 at 18:22
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What is the meaning of S.A. int the title?
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– miracle173
Feb 16 '14 at 18:25
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Did someone use a thesaurus.
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– smokeypeat
Oct 3 '15 at 12:36
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The application of these seemingly erudite words appears preposterous rendering the question very bizarre.
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Show if ${x_n}$ is a convergent sequence, then the sequences given by the averages ${dfrac{x_1 + x_2 + ... + x_n}{n}}$ converges to the same limit. (Not a duplicate)
Let $epsilon>0$ be arbitrary. Then need to find an $N in mathbb{N}$ s.t. $n geq N implies |frac{x_1 + x_2 + ... + x_n}{n} - L|< epsilon quad (♫)$.
Question posits $(x_{n}) to mathrm{L}$, ergo there exists $M in mathbb{N}$ such that $n ge M implies |x_{n}-L|< M quad (♪)$.
Also, there exists an $C$ such that $n ge C implies |x_{n}-L|< e/2 quad (☺)$.
1. Where does (☺) issue from? Did solution rewrite M in (♪) as C? How to presage $e/2$ ?
Cesaro means is $dfrac{a_1 + ... + a_n }{n }$. n is fixed, Ergo how can we choose $K$?
1.1. Doesn't the same argument prove all the terms can be bounded? Why simply 'the early terms in the averages can be bounded' ? Please expatiate on "Because the original sequence is convergent, we suspect that we can bound ... we will be breaking the limit in two at the end" ?
I still don't understand how "we suspect" these bounds?
Now for all $n ge C$, we can write
2. How to presage to rewrite $color{red}{L = nL/n}?$
Why 'we would like to compare each term to the limit' ?
3. How to presage presciently to split the sum between $x_{C - 1}$ and $x_C$ ?
By the agency of Triangle Inequality myriad times,
$begin{align}
le & color{green}{(left| x_{1}-Lright| +ldots +left| x_{c-1}-Lright|)} dfrac {1} {n} & + color{brown}{( left| x_{C}-Lright| +ldots +left| x_{n}-Lright|)} dfrac {1} {n} \
~ & color{green}{text{Each of these (C - 1) terms < M by (♪)} } & color{brown}{ text{ Each of these (n - c) terms < e/2 by (☺) }} \
& color{green}{█ < (C - 1)M}frac{1}{n} & + color{brown}{frac{e}{2}(n - c)}frac{1}{n} \
end{align}$
Because C and M are fixed constants at this point, we may choose $N_2$ so that
$color{green}{(C - 1)M}frac{1}{n} < e/2$ for all $n ge N_2$. Finally, let $N$ in $(♫)$ be $max{C, N_2}$. Because $C > 0$, $n - C < n iff color{magenta}{frac{n - C}{n}} < 1$.
4. Why are we sanctioned to choose $N_2$ so that $color{green}{(C - 1)M}frac{1}{n} < e/2$? I know this behaves.
5. Shouldn't the last line underneath have $<$, by dint of the line with $color{green}{█}$ (two lines before 4.) ?
$le color{green}{(C - 1)M}frac{1}{n} + frac{e}{2}color{magenta}{frac{n - C}{n}} < e/2 + e/2color{magenta}{(1)}$.
real-analysis sequences-and-series proof-verification
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Show if ${x_n}$ is a convergent sequence, then the sequences given by the averages ${dfrac{x_1 + x_2 + ... + x_n}{n}}$ converges to the same limit. (Not a duplicate)
Let $epsilon>0$ be arbitrary. Then need to find an $N in mathbb{N}$ s.t. $n geq N implies |frac{x_1 + x_2 + ... + x_n}{n} - L|< epsilon quad (♫)$.
Question posits $(x_{n}) to mathrm{L}$, ergo there exists $M in mathbb{N}$ such that $n ge M implies |x_{n}-L|< M quad (♪)$.
Also, there exists an $C$ such that $n ge C implies |x_{n}-L|< e/2 quad (☺)$.
1. Where does (☺) issue from? Did solution rewrite M in (♪) as C? How to presage $e/2$ ?
Cesaro means is $dfrac{a_1 + ... + a_n }{n }$. n is fixed, Ergo how can we choose $K$?
1.1. Doesn't the same argument prove all the terms can be bounded? Why simply 'the early terms in the averages can be bounded' ? Please expatiate on "Because the original sequence is convergent, we suspect that we can bound ... we will be breaking the limit in two at the end" ?
I still don't understand how "we suspect" these bounds?
Now for all $n ge C$, we can write
2. How to presage to rewrite $color{red}{L = nL/n}?$
Why 'we would like to compare each term to the limit' ?
3. How to presage presciently to split the sum between $x_{C - 1}$ and $x_C$ ?
By the agency of Triangle Inequality myriad times,
$begin{align}
le & color{green}{(left| x_{1}-Lright| +ldots +left| x_{c-1}-Lright|)} dfrac {1} {n} & + color{brown}{( left| x_{C}-Lright| +ldots +left| x_{n}-Lright|)} dfrac {1} {n} \
~ & color{green}{text{Each of these (C - 1) terms < M by (♪)} } & color{brown}{ text{ Each of these (n - c) terms < e/2 by (☺) }} \
& color{green}{█ < (C - 1)M}frac{1}{n} & + color{brown}{frac{e}{2}(n - c)}frac{1}{n} \
end{align}$
Because C and M are fixed constants at this point, we may choose $N_2$ so that
$color{green}{(C - 1)M}frac{1}{n} < e/2$ for all $n ge N_2$. Finally, let $N$ in $(♫)$ be $max{C, N_2}$. Because $C > 0$, $n - C < n iff color{magenta}{frac{n - C}{n}} < 1$.
4. Why are we sanctioned to choose $N_2$ so that $color{green}{(C - 1)M}frac{1}{n} < e/2$? I know this behaves.
5. Shouldn't the last line underneath have $<$, by dint of the line with $color{green}{█}$ (two lines before 4.) ?
$le color{green}{(C - 1)M}frac{1}{n} + frac{e}{2}color{magenta}{frac{n - C}{n}} < e/2 + e/2color{magenta}{(1)}$.
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2/3: Why should this be presaged? Anyway it shoul dbe intuoitively clear that one has to distinguish "early" from "late" terms in that the early ones are arbitrary and the late ones are already somewhat close to $L$.
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– Hagen von Eitzen
Feb 16 '14 at 18:20
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2: You don't need to. Since everything is lnear here, it may be a heuristically good idea to start with / reduce to the case $L=0$.
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– Hagen von Eitzen
Feb 16 '14 at 18:22
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What is the meaning of S.A. int the title?
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– miracle173
Feb 16 '14 at 18:25
1
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Did someone use a thesaurus.
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– smokeypeat
Oct 3 '15 at 12:36
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The application of these seemingly erudite words appears preposterous rendering the question very bizarre.
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– smokeypeat
Oct 3 '15 at 12:53
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show 3 more comments
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2/3: Why should this be presaged? Anyway it shoul dbe intuoitively clear that one has to distinguish "early" from "late" terms in that the early ones are arbitrary and the late ones are already somewhat close to $L$.
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– Hagen von Eitzen
Feb 16 '14 at 18:20
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2: You don't need to. Since everything is lnear here, it may be a heuristically good idea to start with / reduce to the case $L=0$.
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– Hagen von Eitzen
Feb 16 '14 at 18:22
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What is the meaning of S.A. int the title?
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– miracle173
Feb 16 '14 at 18:25
1
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Did someone use a thesaurus.
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– smokeypeat
Oct 3 '15 at 12:36
1
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The application of these seemingly erudite words appears preposterous rendering the question very bizarre.
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– smokeypeat
Oct 3 '15 at 12:53
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2/3: Why should this be presaged? Anyway it shoul dbe intuoitively clear that one has to distinguish "early" from "late" terms in that the early ones are arbitrary and the late ones are already somewhat close to $L$.
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– Hagen von Eitzen
Feb 16 '14 at 18:20
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2/3: Why should this be presaged? Anyway it shoul dbe intuoitively clear that one has to distinguish "early" from "late" terms in that the early ones are arbitrary and the late ones are already somewhat close to $L$.
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– Hagen von Eitzen
Feb 16 '14 at 18:20
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2: You don't need to. Since everything is lnear here, it may be a heuristically good idea to start with / reduce to the case $L=0$.
$endgroup$
– Hagen von Eitzen
Feb 16 '14 at 18:22
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2: You don't need to. Since everything is lnear here, it may be a heuristically good idea to start with / reduce to the case $L=0$.
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– Hagen von Eitzen
Feb 16 '14 at 18:22
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What is the meaning of S.A. int the title?
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– miracle173
Feb 16 '14 at 18:25
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What is the meaning of S.A. int the title?
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– miracle173
Feb 16 '14 at 18:25
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1
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Did someone use a thesaurus.
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– smokeypeat
Oct 3 '15 at 12:36
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Did someone use a thesaurus.
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– smokeypeat
Oct 3 '15 at 12:36
1
1
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The application of these seemingly erudite words appears preposterous rendering the question very bizarre.
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– smokeypeat
Oct 3 '15 at 12:53
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The application of these seemingly erudite words appears preposterous rendering the question very bizarre.
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1. Where does (☺) issue from? Did solution rewrite M in (♪) as C? How to presage $e/2$ ?
Cesaro means is $dfrac{a_1 + ... + a_n }{n }$. n is fixed. Ergo how can we choose $K$?
And what's $l$?
1.1. Your 2e last sentence : " we can bound the later terms using the convergence of the $color{Red}{regular}$"
I don't understand. Should there be words after $color{Red}{regular}$?
Both (☺) and (♪) come from the definition of the limit. The usage of $C$ corresponds to the upper bound $e/2$, while $M$ is used for the upper bound $M$. To presage $e/2$, consider that for any fixed sum $dfrac{a_1+dots+a_ell}{K} leq dfrac{ell}{K}max_i(a_i)$, we can choose $K$ to make the fraction arbitrarily small. Here $ell$ is an arbitrary index chosen so as not to be involved in the problem directly. For any $varepsilon>0$ if we choose $dfrac{l}{K} < varepsilon iff K>ell/varepsilon$, then the sum $dfrac{a_1+dots+a_ell}{K} <varepsilon$. Hence, the early terms in the averages can be bounded. Because the original sequence is convergent, we suspect that we can bound the later terms using the convergence of the regular sequence (the word sequence was omitted in an earlier edit by mistake). Hence, we suspect that we will be breaking the limit in two at the end, so we will want $e/2$ for bound.
As a note, if I were writing the proof, I would write the proof with all my bounds $eta$ and then choose $eta$ to make the conclusion match the arbitrary $epsilon$.
2. How to presage feyly to rewrite $color{red}{L = nL/n}?$
I know question posits ${x_n}$ is a convergent sequence.
But I'm nonplussed why 'we would like to compare each term to the limit' ?
We should compare the sequence to the limit because that is the only number to which a meaningful comparison can be made. The sequence may behave arbitrarily with the exception that it converges to some limit $L$.
As we saw in the first part, we suspect that we should break the sum into two parts. Because the sequence is convergent, we would like to compare each term to the limit. To do so we use the rules of algebra to put $L$ on a common denominator, or equivalently, write $nL/n$.
3. How to presage presciently to split the sum between $x_{C - 1}$ and $x_C$ ?
Continuing the argument from the first part, we break the sum into two pieces at an arbitrary point $C$. Then we simplify the fractions, and bound them using the technique from part 1.
4. I know we want the bound to behave, but what or who sanctioned us to choose $N_2$ and to invoke $color{green}{(C - 1)M}frac{1}{n} < e/2$? We can't just choose whatever we want?
Because we want the result to be true in the limit we must show that for all sufficiently large $n$, the bound holds. We choose $N_2$ to make the fraction resulting from the early terms of the series small. The number $N_2$ is an arbitrary number, with the only requirement that it be large enough to guarantee that the fraction is sufficiently small.
5. Shouldn't this last line start with $<$?
If you are referring to the line given by the triangle inequality, then we must put '$leq$' because that is all the triangle inequality gives. The next line is strict inequality for appropriate choices of $M$ and $C$.
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@TuckerRapu, You are correct that I made a typo around the word "regular". I am not 100% clear on the inequality you are referring to in question 5, so please let me know if I did not address your question. I am also not completely clear on what you mean by "We can't just choose whatever we want?".
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– Carl Morris
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+Upvote. thank you so much. i revised questions 1.1, 4, 5. please apprise me in your answer? not in comments please.
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– Tucker Rapu
Mar 12 '14 at 10:10
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I appreciate your curiosity. I will need a to think through this, and answer your revised questions soon. Research meetings this week, have me busier than usual.
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– Carl Morris
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1. Where does (☺) issue from? Did solution rewrite M in (♪) as C? How to presage $e/2$ ?
Cesaro means is $dfrac{a_1 + ... + a_n }{n }$. n is fixed. Ergo how can we choose $K$?
And what's $l$?
1.1. Your 2e last sentence : " we can bound the later terms using the convergence of the $color{Red}{regular}$"
I don't understand. Should there be words after $color{Red}{regular}$?
Both (☺) and (♪) come from the definition of the limit. The usage of $C$ corresponds to the upper bound $e/2$, while $M$ is used for the upper bound $M$. To presage $e/2$, consider that for any fixed sum $dfrac{a_1+dots+a_ell}{K} leq dfrac{ell}{K}max_i(a_i)$, we can choose $K$ to make the fraction arbitrarily small. Here $ell$ is an arbitrary index chosen so as not to be involved in the problem directly. For any $varepsilon>0$ if we choose $dfrac{l}{K} < varepsilon iff K>ell/varepsilon$, then the sum $dfrac{a_1+dots+a_ell}{K} <varepsilon$. Hence, the early terms in the averages can be bounded. Because the original sequence is convergent, we suspect that we can bound the later terms using the convergence of the regular sequence (the word sequence was omitted in an earlier edit by mistake). Hence, we suspect that we will be breaking the limit in two at the end, so we will want $e/2$ for bound.
As a note, if I were writing the proof, I would write the proof with all my bounds $eta$ and then choose $eta$ to make the conclusion match the arbitrary $epsilon$.
2. How to presage feyly to rewrite $color{red}{L = nL/n}?$
I know question posits ${x_n}$ is a convergent sequence.
But I'm nonplussed why 'we would like to compare each term to the limit' ?
We should compare the sequence to the limit because that is the only number to which a meaningful comparison can be made. The sequence may behave arbitrarily with the exception that it converges to some limit $L$.
As we saw in the first part, we suspect that we should break the sum into two parts. Because the sequence is convergent, we would like to compare each term to the limit. To do so we use the rules of algebra to put $L$ on a common denominator, or equivalently, write $nL/n$.
3. How to presage presciently to split the sum between $x_{C - 1}$ and $x_C$ ?
Continuing the argument from the first part, we break the sum into two pieces at an arbitrary point $C$. Then we simplify the fractions, and bound them using the technique from part 1.
4. I know we want the bound to behave, but what or who sanctioned us to choose $N_2$ and to invoke $color{green}{(C - 1)M}frac{1}{n} < e/2$? We can't just choose whatever we want?
Because we want the result to be true in the limit we must show that for all sufficiently large $n$, the bound holds. We choose $N_2$ to make the fraction resulting from the early terms of the series small. The number $N_2$ is an arbitrary number, with the only requirement that it be large enough to guarantee that the fraction is sufficiently small.
5. Shouldn't this last line start with $<$?
If you are referring to the line given by the triangle inequality, then we must put '$leq$' because that is all the triangle inequality gives. The next line is strict inequality for appropriate choices of $M$ and $C$.
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@TuckerRapu, You are correct that I made a typo around the word "regular". I am not 100% clear on the inequality you are referring to in question 5, so please let me know if I did not address your question. I am also not completely clear on what you mean by "We can't just choose whatever we want?".
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– Carl Morris
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+Upvote. thank you so much. i revised questions 1.1, 4, 5. please apprise me in your answer? not in comments please.
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– Tucker Rapu
Mar 12 '14 at 10:10
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I appreciate your curiosity. I will need a to think through this, and answer your revised questions soon. Research meetings this week, have me busier than usual.
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Mar 13 '14 at 13:34
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1. Where does (☺) issue from? Did solution rewrite M in (♪) as C? How to presage $e/2$ ?
Cesaro means is $dfrac{a_1 + ... + a_n }{n }$. n is fixed. Ergo how can we choose $K$?
And what's $l$?
1.1. Your 2e last sentence : " we can bound the later terms using the convergence of the $color{Red}{regular}$"
I don't understand. Should there be words after $color{Red}{regular}$?
Both (☺) and (♪) come from the definition of the limit. The usage of $C$ corresponds to the upper bound $e/2$, while $M$ is used for the upper bound $M$. To presage $e/2$, consider that for any fixed sum $dfrac{a_1+dots+a_ell}{K} leq dfrac{ell}{K}max_i(a_i)$, we can choose $K$ to make the fraction arbitrarily small. Here $ell$ is an arbitrary index chosen so as not to be involved in the problem directly. For any $varepsilon>0$ if we choose $dfrac{l}{K} < varepsilon iff K>ell/varepsilon$, then the sum $dfrac{a_1+dots+a_ell}{K} <varepsilon$. Hence, the early terms in the averages can be bounded. Because the original sequence is convergent, we suspect that we can bound the later terms using the convergence of the regular sequence (the word sequence was omitted in an earlier edit by mistake). Hence, we suspect that we will be breaking the limit in two at the end, so we will want $e/2$ for bound.
As a note, if I were writing the proof, I would write the proof with all my bounds $eta$ and then choose $eta$ to make the conclusion match the arbitrary $epsilon$.
2. How to presage feyly to rewrite $color{red}{L = nL/n}?$
I know question posits ${x_n}$ is a convergent sequence.
But I'm nonplussed why 'we would like to compare each term to the limit' ?
We should compare the sequence to the limit because that is the only number to which a meaningful comparison can be made. The sequence may behave arbitrarily with the exception that it converges to some limit $L$.
As we saw in the first part, we suspect that we should break the sum into two parts. Because the sequence is convergent, we would like to compare each term to the limit. To do so we use the rules of algebra to put $L$ on a common denominator, or equivalently, write $nL/n$.
3. How to presage presciently to split the sum between $x_{C - 1}$ and $x_C$ ?
Continuing the argument from the first part, we break the sum into two pieces at an arbitrary point $C$. Then we simplify the fractions, and bound them using the technique from part 1.
4. I know we want the bound to behave, but what or who sanctioned us to choose $N_2$ and to invoke $color{green}{(C - 1)M}frac{1}{n} < e/2$? We can't just choose whatever we want?
Because we want the result to be true in the limit we must show that for all sufficiently large $n$, the bound holds. We choose $N_2$ to make the fraction resulting from the early terms of the series small. The number $N_2$ is an arbitrary number, with the only requirement that it be large enough to guarantee that the fraction is sufficiently small.
5. Shouldn't this last line start with $<$?
If you are referring to the line given by the triangle inequality, then we must put '$leq$' because that is all the triangle inequality gives. The next line is strict inequality for appropriate choices of $M$ and $C$.
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@TuckerRapu, You are correct that I made a typo around the word "regular". I am not 100% clear on the inequality you are referring to in question 5, so please let me know if I did not address your question. I am also not completely clear on what you mean by "We can't just choose whatever we want?".
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– Carl Morris
Mar 10 '14 at 1:08
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+Upvote. thank you so much. i revised questions 1.1, 4, 5. please apprise me in your answer? not in comments please.
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– Tucker Rapu
Mar 12 '14 at 10:10
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I appreciate your curiosity. I will need a to think through this, and answer your revised questions soon. Research meetings this week, have me busier than usual.
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– Carl Morris
Mar 13 '14 at 13:34
add a comment |
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1. Where does (☺) issue from? Did solution rewrite M in (♪) as C? How to presage $e/2$ ?
Cesaro means is $dfrac{a_1 + ... + a_n }{n }$. n is fixed. Ergo how can we choose $K$?
And what's $l$?
1.1. Your 2e last sentence : " we can bound the later terms using the convergence of the $color{Red}{regular}$"
I don't understand. Should there be words after $color{Red}{regular}$?
Both (☺) and (♪) come from the definition of the limit. The usage of $C$ corresponds to the upper bound $e/2$, while $M$ is used for the upper bound $M$. To presage $e/2$, consider that for any fixed sum $dfrac{a_1+dots+a_ell}{K} leq dfrac{ell}{K}max_i(a_i)$, we can choose $K$ to make the fraction arbitrarily small. Here $ell$ is an arbitrary index chosen so as not to be involved in the problem directly. For any $varepsilon>0$ if we choose $dfrac{l}{K} < varepsilon iff K>ell/varepsilon$, then the sum $dfrac{a_1+dots+a_ell}{K} <varepsilon$. Hence, the early terms in the averages can be bounded. Because the original sequence is convergent, we suspect that we can bound the later terms using the convergence of the regular sequence (the word sequence was omitted in an earlier edit by mistake). Hence, we suspect that we will be breaking the limit in two at the end, so we will want $e/2$ for bound.
As a note, if I were writing the proof, I would write the proof with all my bounds $eta$ and then choose $eta$ to make the conclusion match the arbitrary $epsilon$.
2. How to presage feyly to rewrite $color{red}{L = nL/n}?$
I know question posits ${x_n}$ is a convergent sequence.
But I'm nonplussed why 'we would like to compare each term to the limit' ?
We should compare the sequence to the limit because that is the only number to which a meaningful comparison can be made. The sequence may behave arbitrarily with the exception that it converges to some limit $L$.
As we saw in the first part, we suspect that we should break the sum into two parts. Because the sequence is convergent, we would like to compare each term to the limit. To do so we use the rules of algebra to put $L$ on a common denominator, or equivalently, write $nL/n$.
3. How to presage presciently to split the sum between $x_{C - 1}$ and $x_C$ ?
Continuing the argument from the first part, we break the sum into two pieces at an arbitrary point $C$. Then we simplify the fractions, and bound them using the technique from part 1.
4. I know we want the bound to behave, but what or who sanctioned us to choose $N_2$ and to invoke $color{green}{(C - 1)M}frac{1}{n} < e/2$? We can't just choose whatever we want?
Because we want the result to be true in the limit we must show that for all sufficiently large $n$, the bound holds. We choose $N_2$ to make the fraction resulting from the early terms of the series small. The number $N_2$ is an arbitrary number, with the only requirement that it be large enough to guarantee that the fraction is sufficiently small.
5. Shouldn't this last line start with $<$?
If you are referring to the line given by the triangle inequality, then we must put '$leq$' because that is all the triangle inequality gives. The next line is strict inequality for appropriate choices of $M$ and $C$.
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1. Where does (☺) issue from? Did solution rewrite M in (♪) as C? How to presage $e/2$ ?
Cesaro means is $dfrac{a_1 + ... + a_n }{n }$. n is fixed. Ergo how can we choose $K$?
And what's $l$?
1.1. Your 2e last sentence : " we can bound the later terms using the convergence of the $color{Red}{regular}$"
I don't understand. Should there be words after $color{Red}{regular}$?
Both (☺) and (♪) come from the definition of the limit. The usage of $C$ corresponds to the upper bound $e/2$, while $M$ is used for the upper bound $M$. To presage $e/2$, consider that for any fixed sum $dfrac{a_1+dots+a_ell}{K} leq dfrac{ell}{K}max_i(a_i)$, we can choose $K$ to make the fraction arbitrarily small. Here $ell$ is an arbitrary index chosen so as not to be involved in the problem directly. For any $varepsilon>0$ if we choose $dfrac{l}{K} < varepsilon iff K>ell/varepsilon$, then the sum $dfrac{a_1+dots+a_ell}{K} <varepsilon$. Hence, the early terms in the averages can be bounded. Because the original sequence is convergent, we suspect that we can bound the later terms using the convergence of the regular sequence (the word sequence was omitted in an earlier edit by mistake). Hence, we suspect that we will be breaking the limit in two at the end, so we will want $e/2$ for bound.
As a note, if I were writing the proof, I would write the proof with all my bounds $eta$ and then choose $eta$ to make the conclusion match the arbitrary $epsilon$.
2. How to presage feyly to rewrite $color{red}{L = nL/n}?$
I know question posits ${x_n}$ is a convergent sequence.
But I'm nonplussed why 'we would like to compare each term to the limit' ?
We should compare the sequence to the limit because that is the only number to which a meaningful comparison can be made. The sequence may behave arbitrarily with the exception that it converges to some limit $L$.
As we saw in the first part, we suspect that we should break the sum into two parts. Because the sequence is convergent, we would like to compare each term to the limit. To do so we use the rules of algebra to put $L$ on a common denominator, or equivalently, write $nL/n$.
3. How to presage presciently to split the sum between $x_{C - 1}$ and $x_C$ ?
Continuing the argument from the first part, we break the sum into two pieces at an arbitrary point $C$. Then we simplify the fractions, and bound them using the technique from part 1.
4. I know we want the bound to behave, but what or who sanctioned us to choose $N_2$ and to invoke $color{green}{(C - 1)M}frac{1}{n} < e/2$? We can't just choose whatever we want?
Because we want the result to be true in the limit we must show that for all sufficiently large $n$, the bound holds. We choose $N_2$ to make the fraction resulting from the early terms of the series small. The number $N_2$ is an arbitrary number, with the only requirement that it be large enough to guarantee that the fraction is sufficiently small.
5. Shouldn't this last line start with $<$?
If you are referring to the line given by the triangle inequality, then we must put '$leq$' because that is all the triangle inequality gives. The next line is strict inequality for appropriate choices of $M$ and $C$.
edited Mar 12 '14 at 9:53
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@TuckerRapu, You are correct that I made a typo around the word "regular". I am not 100% clear on the inequality you are referring to in question 5, so please let me know if I did not address your question. I am also not completely clear on what you mean by "We can't just choose whatever we want?".
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– Carl Morris
Mar 10 '14 at 1:08
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+Upvote. thank you so much. i revised questions 1.1, 4, 5. please apprise me in your answer? not in comments please.
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– Tucker Rapu
Mar 12 '14 at 10:10
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I appreciate your curiosity. I will need a to think through this, and answer your revised questions soon. Research meetings this week, have me busier than usual.
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– Carl Morris
Mar 13 '14 at 13:34
add a comment |
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@TuckerRapu, You are correct that I made a typo around the word "regular". I am not 100% clear on the inequality you are referring to in question 5, so please let me know if I did not address your question. I am also not completely clear on what you mean by "We can't just choose whatever we want?".
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– Carl Morris
Mar 10 '14 at 1:08
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+Upvote. thank you so much. i revised questions 1.1, 4, 5. please apprise me in your answer? not in comments please.
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– Tucker Rapu
Mar 12 '14 at 10:10
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I appreciate your curiosity. I will need a to think through this, and answer your revised questions soon. Research meetings this week, have me busier than usual.
$endgroup$
– Carl Morris
Mar 13 '14 at 13:34
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@TuckerRapu, You are correct that I made a typo around the word "regular". I am not 100% clear on the inequality you are referring to in question 5, so please let me know if I did not address your question. I am also not completely clear on what you mean by "We can't just choose whatever we want?".
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– Carl Morris
Mar 10 '14 at 1:08
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@TuckerRapu, You are correct that I made a typo around the word "regular". I am not 100% clear on the inequality you are referring to in question 5, so please let me know if I did not address your question. I am also not completely clear on what you mean by "We can't just choose whatever we want?".
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– Carl Morris
Mar 10 '14 at 1:08
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+Upvote. thank you so much. i revised questions 1.1, 4, 5. please apprise me in your answer? not in comments please.
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– Tucker Rapu
Mar 12 '14 at 10:10
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+Upvote. thank you so much. i revised questions 1.1, 4, 5. please apprise me in your answer? not in comments please.
$endgroup$
– Tucker Rapu
Mar 12 '14 at 10:10
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I appreciate your curiosity. I will need a to think through this, and answer your revised questions soon. Research meetings this week, have me busier than usual.
$endgroup$
– Carl Morris
Mar 13 '14 at 13:34
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I appreciate your curiosity. I will need a to think through this, and answer your revised questions soon. Research meetings this week, have me busier than usual.
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– Carl Morris
Mar 13 '14 at 13:34
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2/3: Why should this be presaged? Anyway it shoul dbe intuoitively clear that one has to distinguish "early" from "late" terms in that the early ones are arbitrary and the late ones are already somewhat close to $L$.
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– Hagen von Eitzen
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2: You don't need to. Since everything is lnear here, it may be a heuristically good idea to start with / reduce to the case $L=0$.
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– Hagen von Eitzen
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What is the meaning of S.A. int the title?
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– miracle173
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Did someone use a thesaurus.
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– smokeypeat
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The application of these seemingly erudite words appears preposterous rendering the question very bizarre.
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– smokeypeat
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