Copying Etrata, the Silencer, but not its name
If I copy Etrata, the Silencer, but not its name as in the case of Lazav, the Multifarious; will its copied abilities work since Etrata's ability states "When Etrata deals damage" and Lazav doesn't copy Etrata's name? Or would it require the card to possess both the ability and name?
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If I copy Etrata, the Silencer, but not its name as in the case of Lazav, the Multifarious; will its copied abilities work since Etrata's ability states "When Etrata deals damage" and Lazav doesn't copy Etrata's name? Or would it require the card to possess both the ability and name?
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edited Dec 30 '18 at 21:16
Joe W
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asked Dec 30 '18 at 20:18
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Self referential text always refers to the card, regardless of the name. Copied self referential text works the same, it refers to the copy.
– Andrew
Dec 31 '18 at 15:09
Related (not duplicate): boardgames.stackexchange.com/questions/35535/…
– GendoIkari
Dec 31 '18 at 16:36
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If I copy Etrata, the Silencer, but not its name as in the case of Lazav, the Multifarious; will its copied abilities work since Etrata's ability states "When Etrata deals damage" and Lazav doesn't copy Etrata's name? Or would it require the card to possess both the ability and name?
magic-the-gathering mtg-multiplayer
edited Dec 30 '18 at 21:16
Joe W
8,84623150
asked Dec 30 '18 at 20:18
Austin DuesingAustin Duesing
761
If I copy Etrata, the Silencer, but not its name as in the case of Lazav, the Multifarious; will its copied abilities work since Etrata's ability states "When Etrata deals damage" and Lazav doesn't copy Etrata's name? Or would it require the card to possess both the ability and name?
magic-the-gathering mtg-multiplayer
magic-the-gathering mtg-multiplayer
edited Dec 30 '18 at 21:16
Joe W
8,84623150
asked Dec 30 '18 at 20:18
Austin DuesingAustin Duesing
761
edited Dec 30 '18 at 21:16
Joe W
8,84623150
asked Dec 30 '18 at 20:18
Austin DuesingAustin Duesing
761
edited Dec 30 '18 at 21:16
Joe W
8,84623150
edited Dec 30 '18 at 21:16
Joe W
8,84623150
edited Dec 30 '18 at 21:16
Joe W
8,84623150
8,84623150
asked Dec 30 '18 at 20:18
Austin DuesingAustin Duesing
761
asked Dec 30 '18 at 20:18
Austin DuesingAustin Duesing
761
asked Dec 30 '18 at 20:18
Austin DuesingAustin Duesing
761
761
1
Self referential text always refers to the card, regardless of the name. Copied self referential text works the same, it refers to the copy.
– Andrew
Dec 31 '18 at 15:09
Related (not duplicate): boardgames.stackexchange.com/questions/35535/…
– GendoIkari
Dec 31 '18 at 16:36
add a comment |
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Self referential text always refers to the card, regardless of the name. Copied self referential text works the same, it refers to the copy.
– Andrew
Dec 31 '18 at 15:09
Related (not duplicate): boardgames.stackexchange.com/questions/35535/…
– GendoIkari
Dec 31 '18 at 16:36
1
1
Self referential text always refers to the card, regardless of the name. Copied self referential text works the same, it refers to the copy.
– Andrew
Dec 31 '18 at 15:09
Self referential text always refers to the card, regardless of the name. Copied self referential text works the same, it refers to the copy.
– Andrew
Dec 31 '18 at 15:09
Related (not duplicate): boardgames.stackexchange.com/questions/35535/…
– GendoIkari
Dec 31 '18 at 16:36
Related (not duplicate): boardgames.stackexchange.com/questions/35535/…
– GendoIkari
Dec 31 '18 at 16:36
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Its copied abilities would definitely work, even though Lazav is still named Lazav. See rule 201.4:
201.4. Text that refers to the object it’s on by name means just that particular object and not any other objects with that name, regardless of any name changes caused by game effects.
201.4b If an ability of an object refers to that object by name, and an object with a different name gains that ability, each instance of the first name in the gained ability that refers to the first object by name should be treated as the second name.
answered Dec 30 '18 at 22:04
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In other words "Whenever Etrata deals combat damage to a player" and "Etrata's owner shuffles Etrata into their library." are simply "friendly" ways to write "Whenever this object deals combat damage to a player" and "This object's owner shuffles this object into their library."
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Its copied abilities would definitely work, even though Lazav is still named Lazav. See rule 201.4:
201.4. Text that refers to the object it’s on by name means just that particular object and not any other objects with that name, regardless of any name changes caused by game effects.
201.4b If an ability of an object refers to that object by name, and an object with a different name gains that ability, each instance of the first name in the gained ability that refers to the first object by name should be treated as the second name.
answered Dec 30 '18 at 22:04
GlorfindelGlorfindel
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In other words "Whenever Etrata deals combat damage to a player" and "Etrata's owner shuffles Etrata into their library." are simply "friendly" ways to write "Whenever this object deals combat damage to a player" and "This object's owner shuffles this object into their library."
– ikegami
Dec 31 '18 at 5:42
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Its copied abilities would definitely work, even though Lazav is still named Lazav. See rule 201.4:
201.4. Text that refers to the object it’s on by name means just that particular object and not any other objects with that name, regardless of any name changes caused by game effects.
201.4b If an ability of an object refers to that object by name, and an object with a different name gains that ability, each instance of the first name in the gained ability that refers to the first object by name should be treated as the second name.
answered Dec 30 '18 at 22:04
GlorfindelGlorfindel
4,76111338
In other words "Whenever Etrata deals combat damage to a player" and "Etrata's owner shuffles Etrata into their library." are simply "friendly" ways to write "Whenever this object deals combat damage to a player" and "This object's owner shuffles this object into their library."
– ikegami
Dec 31 '18 at 5:42
add a comment |
Its copied abilities would definitely work, even though Lazav is still named Lazav. See rule 201.4:
201.4. Text that refers to the object it’s on by name means just that particular object and not any other objects with that name, regardless of any name changes caused by game effects.
201.4b If an ability of an object refers to that object by name, and an object with a different name gains that ability, each instance of the first name in the gained ability that refers to the first object by name should be treated as the second name.
answered Dec 30 '18 at 22:04
GlorfindelGlorfindel
4,76111338
Its copied abilities would definitely work, even though Lazav is still named Lazav. See rule 201.4:
201.4. Text that refers to the object it’s on by name means just that particular object and not any other objects with that name, regardless of any name changes caused by game effects.
201.4b If an ability of an object refers to that object by name, and an object with a different name gains that ability, each instance of the first name in the gained ability that refers to the first object by name should be treated as the second name.
answered Dec 30 '18 at 22:04
GlorfindelGlorfindel
4,76111338
answered Dec 30 '18 at 22:04
GlorfindelGlorfindel
4,76111338
answered Dec 30 '18 at 22:04
GlorfindelGlorfindel
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answered Dec 30 '18 at 22:04
GlorfindelGlorfindel
4,76111338
4,76111338
In other words "Whenever Etrata deals combat damage to a player" and "Etrata's owner shuffles Etrata into their library." are simply "friendly" ways to write "Whenever this object deals combat damage to a player" and "This object's owner shuffles this object into their library."
– ikegami
Dec 31 '18 at 5:42
add a comment |
In other words "Whenever Etrata deals combat damage to a player" and "Etrata's owner shuffles Etrata into their library." are simply "friendly" ways to write "Whenever this object deals combat damage to a player" and "This object's owner shuffles this object into their library."
– ikegami
Dec 31 '18 at 5:42
In other words "Whenever Etrata deals combat damage to a player" and "Etrata's owner shuffles Etrata into their library." are simply "friendly" ways to write "Whenever this object deals combat damage to a player" and "This object's owner shuffles this object into their library."
– ikegami
Dec 31 '18 at 5:42
In other words "Whenever Etrata deals combat damage to a player" and "Etrata's owner shuffles Etrata into their library." are simply "friendly" ways to write "Whenever this object deals combat damage to a player" and "This object's owner shuffles this object into their library."
– ikegami
Dec 31 '18 at 5:42
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Self referential text always refers to the card, regardless of the name. Copied self referential text works the same, it refers to the copy.
– Andrew
Dec 31 '18 at 15:09
Related (not duplicate): boardgames.stackexchange.com/questions/35535/…
– GendoIkari
Dec 31 '18 at 16:36