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$$-12sinθ-5cosθ=0$$



Is it possible? or do I need to generate a graph? I heard the Newton Raphson Method can be used...not sure how to proceed please advise.



I'm trying to calculate the minimum and maximum values of: $y=12cosθ-5sinθ$



The equation above is a derivitive of $y$.










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    You can solve $asin theta+bcostheta=c$ in general (see this question).
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$$-12sinθ-5cosθ=0$$



Is it possible? or do I need to generate a graph? I heard the Newton Raphson Method can be used...not sure how to proceed please advise.



I'm trying to calculate the minimum and maximum values of: $y=12cosθ-5sinθ$



The equation above is a derivitive of $y$.










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    You can solve $asin theta+bcostheta=c$ in general (see this question).
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$$-12sinθ-5cosθ=0$$



Is it possible? or do I need to generate a graph? I heard the Newton Raphson Method can be used...not sure how to proceed please advise.



I'm trying to calculate the minimum and maximum values of: $y=12cosθ-5sinθ$



The equation above is a derivitive of $y$.










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$$-12sinθ-5cosθ=0$$



Is it possible? or do I need to generate a graph? I heard the Newton Raphson Method can be used...not sure how to proceed please advise.



I'm trying to calculate the minimum and maximum values of: $y=12cosθ-5sinθ$



The equation above is a derivitive of $y$.







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    You can solve $asin theta+bcostheta=c$ in general (see this question).
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    @user26486. I am sorry ! I did not go through the link since I was supposing a different approach. I deleted my answer !
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    – Claude Leibovici
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    You can solve $asin theta+bcostheta=c$ in general (see this question).
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    – user26486
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    @user26486. I am sorry ! I did not go through the link since I was supposing a different approach. I deleted my answer !
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You can solve $asin theta+bcostheta=c$ in general (see this question).
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$begingroup$
You can solve $asin theta+bcostheta=c$ in general (see this question).
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– user26486
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@user26486. I am sorry ! I did not go through the link since I was supposing a different approach. I deleted my answer !
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– Claude Leibovici
Jun 16 '15 at 8:50




$begingroup$
@user26486. I am sorry ! I did not go through the link since I was supposing a different approach. I deleted my answer !
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I don't think you should differentiate.



Your $y$ can be written as
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y(theta)=13 cos(theta+arctan(5/12)).
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Can you see from this what the maximum and minimum values are?






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    I didn't do it that way, but something like it, I calculated the arctan of -5/12...then I minused that value from 180 and 360 degrees to get the min and max points...then subed those values back into y, and received the answers -13 and 13....I'm mind boggled here but I got the answer at the back of the book anyway!
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Hint: Check if $theta=pi/2,3pi/2$ (I'm considering the interval $[0,2pi]$ ) are solutions, and then divide by $cos$ and solve for $tan$.






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    $$12sintheta+5costheta=0\impliesfrac{12}{13}sintheta+frac5{13}costheta=0$$
    Now let $cos a=frac{12}{13},sin a=frac{5}{13}$. This works because $sin^2a+cos^2a=1$. We now have
    $$cos asintheta+sin acostheta=0\impliessin(theta+a)=0
    \impliestheta=pi n-a$$ for integer $n$.






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      Yes, it is possible, though the answer might not look nice. First divide by $-12$: $$begin{align}&sintheta + frac 5{12}costheta = 0implies \ implies &sintheta = -frac 5{12}costheta \[2ex] implies &sin^2theta = frac{25}{144}cos^2theta \[2ex] implies &1 - cos^2theta = frac{25}{144}cos^2thetaend{align}$$
      Can you take it from here?






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        y = 12cosx -5sinx



        y'= -12sinx -5cosx



        put y'=0



        -12sinx -5cosx = 0



        12sinx + 5cosx =0 (multiplied by -1 both sides )



        12sinx = -5cosx



        sinx/cosx=-5/12



        tanx=-5/12



        X = tan inverse (-5/12)



        Now can you proceed?






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        I don't think you should differentiate.



        Your $y$ can be written as
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        y(theta)=13 cos(theta+arctan(5/12)).
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        Can you see from this what the maximum and minimum values are?






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          I didn't do it that way, but something like it, I calculated the arctan of -5/12...then I minused that value from 180 and 360 degrees to get the min and max points...then subed those values back into y, and received the answers -13 and 13....I'm mind boggled here but I got the answer at the back of the book anyway!
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        I don't think you should differentiate.



        Your $y$ can be written as
        $$
        y(theta)=13 cos(theta+arctan(5/12)).
        $$
        Can you see from this what the maximum and minimum values are?






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          I didn't do it that way, but something like it, I calculated the arctan of -5/12...then I minused that value from 180 and 360 degrees to get the min and max points...then subed those values back into y, and received the answers -13 and 13....I'm mind boggled here but I got the answer at the back of the book anyway!
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        I don't think you should differentiate.



        Your $y$ can be written as
        $$
        y(theta)=13 cos(theta+arctan(5/12)).
        $$
        Can you see from this what the maximum and minimum values are?






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        I don't think you should differentiate.



        Your $y$ can be written as
        $$
        y(theta)=13 cos(theta+arctan(5/12)).
        $$
        Can you see from this what the maximum and minimum values are?







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          I didn't do it that way, but something like it, I calculated the arctan of -5/12...then I minused that value from 180 and 360 degrees to get the min and max points...then subed those values back into y, and received the answers -13 and 13....I'm mind boggled here but I got the answer at the back of the book anyway!
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          I didn't do it that way, but something like it, I calculated the arctan of -5/12...then I minused that value from 180 and 360 degrees to get the min and max points...then subed those values back into y, and received the answers -13 and 13....I'm mind boggled here but I got the answer at the back of the book anyway!
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        I didn't do it that way, but something like it, I calculated the arctan of -5/12...then I minused that value from 180 and 360 degrees to get the min and max points...then subed those values back into y, and received the answers -13 and 13....I'm mind boggled here but I got the answer at the back of the book anyway!
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        Jun 16 '15 at 12:56






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        I didn't do it that way, but something like it, I calculated the arctan of -5/12...then I minused that value from 180 and 360 degrees to get the min and max points...then subed those values back into y, and received the answers -13 and 13....I'm mind boggled here but I got the answer at the back of the book anyway!
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        Hint: Check if $theta=pi/2,3pi/2$ (I'm considering the interval $[0,2pi]$ ) are solutions, and then divide by $cos$ and solve for $tan$.






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          Hint: Check if $theta=pi/2,3pi/2$ (I'm considering the interval $[0,2pi]$ ) are solutions, and then divide by $cos$ and solve for $tan$.






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            Hint: Check if $theta=pi/2,3pi/2$ (I'm considering the interval $[0,2pi]$ ) are solutions, and then divide by $cos$ and solve for $tan$.






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            Hint: Check if $theta=pi/2,3pi/2$ (I'm considering the interval $[0,2pi]$ ) are solutions, and then divide by $cos$ and solve for $tan$.







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                $$12sintheta+5costheta=0\impliesfrac{12}{13}sintheta+frac5{13}costheta=0$$
                Now let $cos a=frac{12}{13},sin a=frac{5}{13}$. This works because $sin^2a+cos^2a=1$. We now have
                $$cos asintheta+sin acostheta=0\impliessin(theta+a)=0
                \impliestheta=pi n-a$$ for integer $n$.






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                  $$12sintheta+5costheta=0\impliesfrac{12}{13}sintheta+frac5{13}costheta=0$$
                  Now let $cos a=frac{12}{13},sin a=frac{5}{13}$. This works because $sin^2a+cos^2a=1$. We now have
                  $$cos asintheta+sin acostheta=0\impliessin(theta+a)=0
                  \impliestheta=pi n-a$$ for integer $n$.






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                    $$12sintheta+5costheta=0\impliesfrac{12}{13}sintheta+frac5{13}costheta=0$$
                    Now let $cos a=frac{12}{13},sin a=frac{5}{13}$. This works because $sin^2a+cos^2a=1$. We now have
                    $$cos asintheta+sin acostheta=0\impliessin(theta+a)=0
                    \impliestheta=pi n-a$$ for integer $n$.






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                    $$12sintheta+5costheta=0\impliesfrac{12}{13}sintheta+frac5{13}costheta=0$$
                    Now let $cos a=frac{12}{13},sin a=frac{5}{13}$. This works because $sin^2a+cos^2a=1$. We now have
                    $$cos asintheta+sin acostheta=0\impliessin(theta+a)=0
                    \impliestheta=pi n-a$$ for integer $n$.







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                        Yes, it is possible, though the answer might not look nice. First divide by $-12$: $$begin{align}&sintheta + frac 5{12}costheta = 0implies \ implies &sintheta = -frac 5{12}costheta \[2ex] implies &sin^2theta = frac{25}{144}cos^2theta \[2ex] implies &1 - cos^2theta = frac{25}{144}cos^2thetaend{align}$$
                        Can you take it from here?






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                          Yes, it is possible, though the answer might not look nice. First divide by $-12$: $$begin{align}&sintheta + frac 5{12}costheta = 0implies \ implies &sintheta = -frac 5{12}costheta \[2ex] implies &sin^2theta = frac{25}{144}cos^2theta \[2ex] implies &1 - cos^2theta = frac{25}{144}cos^2thetaend{align}$$
                          Can you take it from here?






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                            Yes, it is possible, though the answer might not look nice. First divide by $-12$: $$begin{align}&sintheta + frac 5{12}costheta = 0implies \ implies &sintheta = -frac 5{12}costheta \[2ex] implies &sin^2theta = frac{25}{144}cos^2theta \[2ex] implies &1 - cos^2theta = frac{25}{144}cos^2thetaend{align}$$
                            Can you take it from here?






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                            Yes, it is possible, though the answer might not look nice. First divide by $-12$: $$begin{align}&sintheta + frac 5{12}costheta = 0implies \ implies &sintheta = -frac 5{12}costheta \[2ex] implies &sin^2theta = frac{25}{144}cos^2theta \[2ex] implies &1 - cos^2theta = frac{25}{144}cos^2thetaend{align}$$
                            Can you take it from here?







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                                y = 12cosx -5sinx



                                y'= -12sinx -5cosx



                                put y'=0



                                -12sinx -5cosx = 0



                                12sinx + 5cosx =0 (multiplied by -1 both sides )



                                12sinx = -5cosx



                                sinx/cosx=-5/12



                                tanx=-5/12



                                X = tan inverse (-5/12)



                                Now can you proceed?






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                                $begingroup$

                                y = 12cosx -5sinx



                                y'= -12sinx -5cosx



                                put y'=0



                                -12sinx -5cosx = 0



                                12sinx + 5cosx =0 (multiplied by -1 both sides )



                                12sinx = -5cosx



                                sinx/cosx=-5/12



                                tanx=-5/12



                                X = tan inverse (-5/12)



                                Now can you proceed?






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                                y = 12cosx -5sinx



                                y'= -12sinx -5cosx



                                put y'=0



                                -12sinx -5cosx = 0



                                12sinx + 5cosx =0 (multiplied by -1 both sides )



                                12sinx = -5cosx



                                sinx/cosx=-5/12



                                tanx=-5/12



                                X = tan inverse (-5/12)



                                Now can you proceed?






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                                y = 12cosx -5sinx



                                y'= -12sinx -5cosx



                                put y'=0



                                -12sinx -5cosx = 0



                                12sinx + 5cosx =0 (multiplied by -1 both sides )



                                12sinx = -5cosx



                                sinx/cosx=-5/12



                                tanx=-5/12



                                X = tan inverse (-5/12)



                                Now can you proceed?







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