How to solve for theta?
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$$-12sinθ-5cosθ=0$$
Is it possible? or do I need to generate a graph? I heard the Newton Raphson Method can be used...not sure how to proceed please advise.
I'm trying to calculate the minimum and maximum values of: $y=12cosθ-5sinθ$
The equation above is a derivitive of $y$.
calculus
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$$-12sinθ-5cosθ=0$$
Is it possible? or do I need to generate a graph? I heard the Newton Raphson Method can be used...not sure how to proceed please advise.
I'm trying to calculate the minimum and maximum values of: $y=12cosθ-5sinθ$
The equation above is a derivitive of $y$.
calculus
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You can solve $asin theta+bcostheta=c$ in general (see this question).
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– user26486
Jun 16 '15 at 8:06
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@user26486. I am sorry ! I did not go through the link since I was supposing a different approach. I deleted my answer !
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– Claude Leibovici
Jun 16 '15 at 8:50
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$$-12sinθ-5cosθ=0$$
Is it possible? or do I need to generate a graph? I heard the Newton Raphson Method can be used...not sure how to proceed please advise.
I'm trying to calculate the minimum and maximum values of: $y=12cosθ-5sinθ$
The equation above is a derivitive of $y$.
calculus
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$$-12sinθ-5cosθ=0$$
Is it possible? or do I need to generate a graph? I heard the Newton Raphson Method can be used...not sure how to proceed please advise.
I'm trying to calculate the minimum and maximum values of: $y=12cosθ-5sinθ$
The equation above is a derivitive of $y$.
calculus
calculus
asked Jun 16 '15 at 7:59
ModriscoModrisco
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You can solve $asin theta+bcostheta=c$ in general (see this question).
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– user26486
Jun 16 '15 at 8:06
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@user26486. I am sorry ! I did not go through the link since I was supposing a different approach. I deleted my answer !
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– Claude Leibovici
Jun 16 '15 at 8:50
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You can solve $asin theta+bcostheta=c$ in general (see this question).
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– user26486
Jun 16 '15 at 8:06
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@user26486. I am sorry ! I did not go through the link since I was supposing a different approach. I deleted my answer !
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– Claude Leibovici
Jun 16 '15 at 8:50
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You can solve $asin theta+bcostheta=c$ in general (see this question).
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– user26486
Jun 16 '15 at 8:06
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You can solve $asin theta+bcostheta=c$ in general (see this question).
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– user26486
Jun 16 '15 at 8:06
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@user26486. I am sorry ! I did not go through the link since I was supposing a different approach. I deleted my answer !
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– Claude Leibovici
Jun 16 '15 at 8:50
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@user26486. I am sorry ! I did not go through the link since I was supposing a different approach. I deleted my answer !
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– Claude Leibovici
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I don't think you should differentiate.
Your $y$ can be written as
$$
y(theta)=13 cos(theta+arctan(5/12)).
$$
Can you see from this what the maximum and minimum values are?
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I didn't do it that way, but something like it, I calculated the arctan of -5/12...then I minused that value from 180 and 360 degrees to get the min and max points...then subed those values back into y, and received the answers -13 and 13....I'm mind boggled here but I got the answer at the back of the book anyway!
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– Modrisco
Jun 16 '15 at 12:56
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Hint: Check if $theta=pi/2,3pi/2$ (I'm considering the interval $[0,2pi]$ ) are solutions, and then divide by $cos$ and solve for $tan$.
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$$12sintheta+5costheta=0\impliesfrac{12}{13}sintheta+frac5{13}costheta=0$$
Now let $cos a=frac{12}{13},sin a=frac{5}{13}$. This works because $sin^2a+cos^2a=1$. We now have
$$cos asintheta+sin acostheta=0\impliessin(theta+a)=0
\impliestheta=pi n-a$$ for integer $n$.
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Yes, it is possible, though the answer might not look nice. First divide by $-12$: $$begin{align}&sintheta + frac 5{12}costheta = 0implies \ implies &sintheta = -frac 5{12}costheta \[2ex] implies &sin^2theta = frac{25}{144}cos^2theta \[2ex] implies &1 - cos^2theta = frac{25}{144}cos^2thetaend{align}$$
Can you take it from here?
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y = 12cosx -5sinx
y'= -12sinx -5cosx
put y'=0
-12sinx -5cosx = 0
12sinx + 5cosx =0 (multiplied by -1 both sides )
12sinx = -5cosx
sinx/cosx=-5/12
tanx=-5/12
X = tan inverse (-5/12)
Now can you proceed?
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Please see math.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5020
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I don't think you should differentiate.
Your $y$ can be written as
$$
y(theta)=13 cos(theta+arctan(5/12)).
$$
Can you see from this what the maximum and minimum values are?
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I didn't do it that way, but something like it, I calculated the arctan of -5/12...then I minused that value from 180 and 360 degrees to get the min and max points...then subed those values back into y, and received the answers -13 and 13....I'm mind boggled here but I got the answer at the back of the book anyway!
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– Modrisco
Jun 16 '15 at 12:56
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I don't think you should differentiate.
Your $y$ can be written as
$$
y(theta)=13 cos(theta+arctan(5/12)).
$$
Can you see from this what the maximum and minimum values are?
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$begingroup$
I didn't do it that way, but something like it, I calculated the arctan of -5/12...then I minused that value from 180 and 360 degrees to get the min and max points...then subed those values back into y, and received the answers -13 and 13....I'm mind boggled here but I got the answer at the back of the book anyway!
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– Modrisco
Jun 16 '15 at 12:56
add a comment |
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I don't think you should differentiate.
Your $y$ can be written as
$$
y(theta)=13 cos(theta+arctan(5/12)).
$$
Can you see from this what the maximum and minimum values are?
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I don't think you should differentiate.
Your $y$ can be written as
$$
y(theta)=13 cos(theta+arctan(5/12)).
$$
Can you see from this what the maximum and minimum values are?
answered Jun 16 '15 at 8:04
mickepmickep
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I didn't do it that way, but something like it, I calculated the arctan of -5/12...then I minused that value from 180 and 360 degrees to get the min and max points...then subed those values back into y, and received the answers -13 and 13....I'm mind boggled here but I got the answer at the back of the book anyway!
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– Modrisco
Jun 16 '15 at 12:56
add a comment |
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I didn't do it that way, but something like it, I calculated the arctan of -5/12...then I minused that value from 180 and 360 degrees to get the min and max points...then subed those values back into y, and received the answers -13 and 13....I'm mind boggled here but I got the answer at the back of the book anyway!
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– Modrisco
Jun 16 '15 at 12:56
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I didn't do it that way, but something like it, I calculated the arctan of -5/12...then I minused that value from 180 and 360 degrees to get the min and max points...then subed those values back into y, and received the answers -13 and 13....I'm mind boggled here but I got the answer at the back of the book anyway!
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– Modrisco
Jun 16 '15 at 12:56
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I didn't do it that way, but something like it, I calculated the arctan of -5/12...then I minused that value from 180 and 360 degrees to get the min and max points...then subed those values back into y, and received the answers -13 and 13....I'm mind boggled here but I got the answer at the back of the book anyway!
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– Modrisco
Jun 16 '15 at 12:56
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Hint: Check if $theta=pi/2,3pi/2$ (I'm considering the interval $[0,2pi]$ ) are solutions, and then divide by $cos$ and solve for $tan$.
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Hint: Check if $theta=pi/2,3pi/2$ (I'm considering the interval $[0,2pi]$ ) are solutions, and then divide by $cos$ and solve for $tan$.
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Hint: Check if $theta=pi/2,3pi/2$ (I'm considering the interval $[0,2pi]$ ) are solutions, and then divide by $cos$ and solve for $tan$.
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Hint: Check if $theta=pi/2,3pi/2$ (I'm considering the interval $[0,2pi]$ ) are solutions, and then divide by $cos$ and solve for $tan$.
answered Jun 16 '15 at 8:01
Vincenzo OlivaVincenzo Oliva
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$$12sintheta+5costheta=0\impliesfrac{12}{13}sintheta+frac5{13}costheta=0$$
Now let $cos a=frac{12}{13},sin a=frac{5}{13}$. This works because $sin^2a+cos^2a=1$. We now have
$$cos asintheta+sin acostheta=0\impliessin(theta+a)=0
\impliestheta=pi n-a$$ for integer $n$.
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$$12sintheta+5costheta=0\impliesfrac{12}{13}sintheta+frac5{13}costheta=0$$
Now let $cos a=frac{12}{13},sin a=frac{5}{13}$. This works because $sin^2a+cos^2a=1$. We now have
$$cos asintheta+sin acostheta=0\impliessin(theta+a)=0
\impliestheta=pi n-a$$ for integer $n$.
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$$12sintheta+5costheta=0\impliesfrac{12}{13}sintheta+frac5{13}costheta=0$$
Now let $cos a=frac{12}{13},sin a=frac{5}{13}$. This works because $sin^2a+cos^2a=1$. We now have
$$cos asintheta+sin acostheta=0\impliessin(theta+a)=0
\impliestheta=pi n-a$$ for integer $n$.
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$$12sintheta+5costheta=0\impliesfrac{12}{13}sintheta+frac5{13}costheta=0$$
Now let $cos a=frac{12}{13},sin a=frac{5}{13}$. This works because $sin^2a+cos^2a=1$. We now have
$$cos asintheta+sin acostheta=0\impliessin(theta+a)=0
\impliestheta=pi n-a$$ for integer $n$.
answered Jun 16 '15 at 8:19
Pauly BPauly B
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Yes, it is possible, though the answer might not look nice. First divide by $-12$: $$begin{align}&sintheta + frac 5{12}costheta = 0implies \ implies &sintheta = -frac 5{12}costheta \[2ex] implies &sin^2theta = frac{25}{144}cos^2theta \[2ex] implies &1 - cos^2theta = frac{25}{144}cos^2thetaend{align}$$
Can you take it from here?
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Yes, it is possible, though the answer might not look nice. First divide by $-12$: $$begin{align}&sintheta + frac 5{12}costheta = 0implies \ implies &sintheta = -frac 5{12}costheta \[2ex] implies &sin^2theta = frac{25}{144}cos^2theta \[2ex] implies &1 - cos^2theta = frac{25}{144}cos^2thetaend{align}$$
Can you take it from here?
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Yes, it is possible, though the answer might not look nice. First divide by $-12$: $$begin{align}&sintheta + frac 5{12}costheta = 0implies \ implies &sintheta = -frac 5{12}costheta \[2ex] implies &sin^2theta = frac{25}{144}cos^2theta \[2ex] implies &1 - cos^2theta = frac{25}{144}cos^2thetaend{align}$$
Can you take it from here?
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Yes, it is possible, though the answer might not look nice. First divide by $-12$: $$begin{align}&sintheta + frac 5{12}costheta = 0implies \ implies &sintheta = -frac 5{12}costheta \[2ex] implies &sin^2theta = frac{25}{144}cos^2theta \[2ex] implies &1 - cos^2theta = frac{25}{144}cos^2thetaend{align}$$
Can you take it from here?
answered Jun 16 '15 at 8:06
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y = 12cosx -5sinx
y'= -12sinx -5cosx
put y'=0
-12sinx -5cosx = 0
12sinx + 5cosx =0 (multiplied by -1 both sides )
12sinx = -5cosx
sinx/cosx=-5/12
tanx=-5/12
X = tan inverse (-5/12)
Now can you proceed?
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Please see math.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5020
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– Lord Shark the Unknown
Dec 30 '18 at 19:44
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y = 12cosx -5sinx
y'= -12sinx -5cosx
put y'=0
-12sinx -5cosx = 0
12sinx + 5cosx =0 (multiplied by -1 both sides )
12sinx = -5cosx
sinx/cosx=-5/12
tanx=-5/12
X = tan inverse (-5/12)
Now can you proceed?
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Please see math.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5020
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– Lord Shark the Unknown
Dec 30 '18 at 19:44
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y = 12cosx -5sinx
y'= -12sinx -5cosx
put y'=0
-12sinx -5cosx = 0
12sinx + 5cosx =0 (multiplied by -1 both sides )
12sinx = -5cosx
sinx/cosx=-5/12
tanx=-5/12
X = tan inverse (-5/12)
Now can you proceed?
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y = 12cosx -5sinx
y'= -12sinx -5cosx
put y'=0
-12sinx -5cosx = 0
12sinx + 5cosx =0 (multiplied by -1 both sides )
12sinx = -5cosx
sinx/cosx=-5/12
tanx=-5/12
X = tan inverse (-5/12)
Now can you proceed?
answered Dec 30 '18 at 19:19
Shankar SubramanianShankar Subramanian
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Please see math.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5020
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– Lord Shark the Unknown
Dec 30 '18 at 19:44
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Please see math.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5020
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– Lord Shark the Unknown
Dec 30 '18 at 19:44
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Please see math.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5020
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– Lord Shark the Unknown
Dec 30 '18 at 19:44
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Please see math.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5020
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– Lord Shark the Unknown
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You can solve $asin theta+bcostheta=c$ in general (see this question).
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– user26486
Jun 16 '15 at 8:06
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@user26486. I am sorry ! I did not go through the link since I was supposing a different approach. I deleted my answer !
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– Claude Leibovici
Jun 16 '15 at 8:50