Evaluating $lim_{xto3}frac{e^{-1over(3-x)^2}+e(4-3cos(x-3))^{1/5}-e^{sqrt {4-x}}}{sqrt {1-cos(x-3)}}$
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First of all, I make the substitution $x-3=t$ which gives me: $$lim_{tto0}frac{e^{-1over t^2}+e(4-3cos t)^{1/5}-e^{sqrt {1-t}}}{sqrt {1-cos t}}$$
The term $e^{-1over t^2}$ goes to $0$ as $t$ approaches $0$ so I ignore it and $e^{sqrt {1-t}}$ is just $e$, so I have to work on remaining two terms.
The term in the denominator becomes ${tover sqrt2}$ as we replace $cos t$ by $1-{t^2over2}$. Applying the same to remaining term yields $e(1+{3t^2over2})^{1/5}=e(1+{3t^2over10})$. So we have: $$lim_{tto0}{e+{e3t^2over10}-eover{toversqrt 2}}$$
Which should equal to $0$, but apparently the correct answer is ${-eoversqrt2}$. So where am I making a mistake?
calculus limits
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First of all, I make the substitution $x-3=t$ which gives me: $$lim_{tto0}frac{e^{-1over t^2}+e(4-3cos t)^{1/5}-e^{sqrt {1-t}}}{sqrt {1-cos t}}$$
The term $e^{-1over t^2}$ goes to $0$ as $t$ approaches $0$ so I ignore it and $e^{sqrt {1-t}}$ is just $e$, so I have to work on remaining two terms.
The term in the denominator becomes ${tover sqrt2}$ as we replace $cos t$ by $1-{t^2over2}$. Applying the same to remaining term yields $e(1+{3t^2over2})^{1/5}=e(1+{3t^2over10})$. So we have: $$lim_{tto0}{e+{e3t^2over10}-eover{toversqrt 2}}$$
Which should equal to $0$, but apparently the correct answer is ${-eoversqrt2}$. So where am I making a mistake?
calculus limits
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Depends, are you evaluating the limit from the right or left? Because as written, this limit does not exist. Also, the assertion you make with $e(1+{3t^2over2})^{1/5}=e(1+{3t^2over10})$ is not true.
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– Denis28
Jan 13 at 23:11
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@Denis28 am evaluating limit just for $xto3$ not left or right.There's a possibility that the answer $({-eoversqrt 2})$ is flawed,but how doesn't the limit exist?
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– Turan Nasibli
Jan 13 at 23:16
1
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when evaluating the limit as $xto3^+$ and $xto3^- $you obtain different answers, thus the limit does not exist.
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– Denis28
Jan 13 at 23:17
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Then,something must be wrong with question,i guess.
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– Turan Nasibli
Jan 13 at 23:19
1
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The first term in numerator can be ignored but not because it tends to $0$ but because the term divided by denominator tends to $0$. In effect one is splitting the given expression into a sum of two fractions where the first fraction uses $e^{-1/(3-x)^2}$ as numerator and this fraction tends to $0$. It is best to apply algebra of limits rather than ignore terms.
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– Paramanand Singh
Jan 14 at 4:22
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First of all, I make the substitution $x-3=t$ which gives me: $$lim_{tto0}frac{e^{-1over t^2}+e(4-3cos t)^{1/5}-e^{sqrt {1-t}}}{sqrt {1-cos t}}$$
The term $e^{-1over t^2}$ goes to $0$ as $t$ approaches $0$ so I ignore it and $e^{sqrt {1-t}}$ is just $e$, so I have to work on remaining two terms.
The term in the denominator becomes ${tover sqrt2}$ as we replace $cos t$ by $1-{t^2over2}$. Applying the same to remaining term yields $e(1+{3t^2over2})^{1/5}=e(1+{3t^2over10})$. So we have: $$lim_{tto0}{e+{e3t^2over10}-eover{toversqrt 2}}$$
Which should equal to $0$, but apparently the correct answer is ${-eoversqrt2}$. So where am I making a mistake?
calculus limits
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First of all, I make the substitution $x-3=t$ which gives me: $$lim_{tto0}frac{e^{-1over t^2}+e(4-3cos t)^{1/5}-e^{sqrt {1-t}}}{sqrt {1-cos t}}$$
The term $e^{-1over t^2}$ goes to $0$ as $t$ approaches $0$ so I ignore it and $e^{sqrt {1-t}}$ is just $e$, so I have to work on remaining two terms.
The term in the denominator becomes ${tover sqrt2}$ as we replace $cos t$ by $1-{t^2over2}$. Applying the same to remaining term yields $e(1+{3t^2over2})^{1/5}=e(1+{3t^2over10})$. So we have: $$lim_{tto0}{e+{e3t^2over10}-eover{toversqrt 2}}$$
Which should equal to $0$, but apparently the correct answer is ${-eoversqrt2}$. So where am I making a mistake?
calculus limits
calculus limits
edited Jan 13 at 23:04
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Depends, are you evaluating the limit from the right or left? Because as written, this limit does not exist. Also, the assertion you make with $e(1+{3t^2over2})^{1/5}=e(1+{3t^2over10})$ is not true.
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– Denis28
Jan 13 at 23:11
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@Denis28 am evaluating limit just for $xto3$ not left or right.There's a possibility that the answer $({-eoversqrt 2})$ is flawed,but how doesn't the limit exist?
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– Turan Nasibli
Jan 13 at 23:16
1
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when evaluating the limit as $xto3^+$ and $xto3^- $you obtain different answers, thus the limit does not exist.
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– Denis28
Jan 13 at 23:17
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Then,something must be wrong with question,i guess.
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– Turan Nasibli
Jan 13 at 23:19
1
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The first term in numerator can be ignored but not because it tends to $0$ but because the term divided by denominator tends to $0$. In effect one is splitting the given expression into a sum of two fractions where the first fraction uses $e^{-1/(3-x)^2}$ as numerator and this fraction tends to $0$. It is best to apply algebra of limits rather than ignore terms.
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– Paramanand Singh
Jan 14 at 4:22
add a comment |
2
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Depends, are you evaluating the limit from the right or left? Because as written, this limit does not exist. Also, the assertion you make with $e(1+{3t^2over2})^{1/5}=e(1+{3t^2over10})$ is not true.
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– Denis28
Jan 13 at 23:11
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@Denis28 am evaluating limit just for $xto3$ not left or right.There's a possibility that the answer $({-eoversqrt 2})$ is flawed,but how doesn't the limit exist?
$endgroup$
– Turan Nasibli
Jan 13 at 23:16
1
$begingroup$
when evaluating the limit as $xto3^+$ and $xto3^- $you obtain different answers, thus the limit does not exist.
$endgroup$
– Denis28
Jan 13 at 23:17
$begingroup$
Then,something must be wrong with question,i guess.
$endgroup$
– Turan Nasibli
Jan 13 at 23:19
1
$begingroup$
The first term in numerator can be ignored but not because it tends to $0$ but because the term divided by denominator tends to $0$. In effect one is splitting the given expression into a sum of two fractions where the first fraction uses $e^{-1/(3-x)^2}$ as numerator and this fraction tends to $0$. It is best to apply algebra of limits rather than ignore terms.
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– Paramanand Singh
Jan 14 at 4:22
2
2
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Depends, are you evaluating the limit from the right or left? Because as written, this limit does not exist. Also, the assertion you make with $e(1+{3t^2over2})^{1/5}=e(1+{3t^2over10})$ is not true.
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– Denis28
Jan 13 at 23:11
$begingroup$
Depends, are you evaluating the limit from the right or left? Because as written, this limit does not exist. Also, the assertion you make with $e(1+{3t^2over2})^{1/5}=e(1+{3t^2over10})$ is not true.
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– Denis28
Jan 13 at 23:11
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@Denis28 am evaluating limit just for $xto3$ not left or right.There's a possibility that the answer $({-eoversqrt 2})$ is flawed,but how doesn't the limit exist?
$endgroup$
– Turan Nasibli
Jan 13 at 23:16
$begingroup$
@Denis28 am evaluating limit just for $xto3$ not left or right.There's a possibility that the answer $({-eoversqrt 2})$ is flawed,but how doesn't the limit exist?
$endgroup$
– Turan Nasibli
Jan 13 at 23:16
1
1
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when evaluating the limit as $xto3^+$ and $xto3^- $you obtain different answers, thus the limit does not exist.
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– Denis28
Jan 13 at 23:17
$begingroup$
when evaluating the limit as $xto3^+$ and $xto3^- $you obtain different answers, thus the limit does not exist.
$endgroup$
– Denis28
Jan 13 at 23:17
$begingroup$
Then,something must be wrong with question,i guess.
$endgroup$
– Turan Nasibli
Jan 13 at 23:19
$begingroup$
Then,something must be wrong with question,i guess.
$endgroup$
– Turan Nasibli
Jan 13 at 23:19
1
1
$begingroup$
The first term in numerator can be ignored but not because it tends to $0$ but because the term divided by denominator tends to $0$. In effect one is splitting the given expression into a sum of two fractions where the first fraction uses $e^{-1/(3-x)^2}$ as numerator and this fraction tends to $0$. It is best to apply algebra of limits rather than ignore terms.
$endgroup$
– Paramanand Singh
Jan 14 at 4:22
$begingroup$
The first term in numerator can be ignored but not because it tends to $0$ but because the term divided by denominator tends to $0$. In effect one is splitting the given expression into a sum of two fractions where the first fraction uses $e^{-1/(3-x)^2}$ as numerator and this fraction tends to $0$. It is best to apply algebra of limits rather than ignore terms.
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– Paramanand Singh
Jan 14 at 4:22
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Considering the limit $$lim_{xto3^-}frac{e^{frac{-1}{(3-x)^2}}+e(4-3cos(x-3))^{1/5}-e^{sqrt {4-x}}}{sqrt {1-cos(x-3)}}to{small{begin{bmatrix}
&t=x-3&\
&tto0^-&
end{bmatrix}}}tolim_{tto0^-}frac{e^{-frac{1}{t^2}}+e(4-3cos t)^{1/5}-e^{sqrt {1-t}}}{sqrt {1-cos t}}$$
And, as you mentioned it is enough to consider the limit
$$lim_{tto0^-}frac{e(4-3cos t)^{1/5}-e^{sqrt {1-t}}}{sqrt {1-cos t}}.$$
Using Taylor Series, we have
$$begin{aligned}
&(4-3cos t)^{1/5}sim 1+frac{3 t^2}{10}+cdots \
&e^{sqrt{1-t}}sim e-frac{e t}{2}+cdots\
&cos(t)sim1-frac{t^2}{2}+cdots
end{aligned}$$
and substituting (and noting that the asymptotic terms $to0$ as $tto0$) we have
$$lim_{tto0^-}frac{e+frac{3et^2}{10}-e+frac{e t}{2}}{frac{vert tvert}{sqrt{2}}}=-lim_{tto0^-}frac{frac{3et}{10}+frac{e}{2}}{frac{1}{sqrt{2}}}=-frac{e}{sqrt{2}}.$$
It is clear, from this last expression, that since there is a $vert tvert$ in the denominator the limit will not exist because $xto3^+implies tto0^+implies vert tvert=t$.
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Thank you very much.So what was missing on my work was using taylor expansions of $e^{sqrt(1-t)}$.But how could i know that the answer i obtained $(0)$ was incorrect and that i should have expanded $e^{sqrt(1-t)}$?
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– Turan Nasibli
Jan 13 at 23:54
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Generally, you should expand each term up to the same order, in this case order $2$. You did not do such thing with $exp(sqrt{1-t})$
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– Denis28
Jan 13 at 23:59
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I didn't know that,thanks a lot.
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Jan 14 at 0:03
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Considering the limit $$lim_{xto3^-}frac{e^{frac{-1}{(3-x)^2}}+e(4-3cos(x-3))^{1/5}-e^{sqrt {4-x}}}{sqrt {1-cos(x-3)}}to{small{begin{bmatrix}
&t=x-3&\
&tto0^-&
end{bmatrix}}}tolim_{tto0^-}frac{e^{-frac{1}{t^2}}+e(4-3cos t)^{1/5}-e^{sqrt {1-t}}}{sqrt {1-cos t}}$$
And, as you mentioned it is enough to consider the limit
$$lim_{tto0^-}frac{e(4-3cos t)^{1/5}-e^{sqrt {1-t}}}{sqrt {1-cos t}}.$$
Using Taylor Series, we have
$$begin{aligned}
&(4-3cos t)^{1/5}sim 1+frac{3 t^2}{10}+cdots \
&e^{sqrt{1-t}}sim e-frac{e t}{2}+cdots\
&cos(t)sim1-frac{t^2}{2}+cdots
end{aligned}$$
and substituting (and noting that the asymptotic terms $to0$ as $tto0$) we have
$$lim_{tto0^-}frac{e+frac{3et^2}{10}-e+frac{e t}{2}}{frac{vert tvert}{sqrt{2}}}=-lim_{tto0^-}frac{frac{3et}{10}+frac{e}{2}}{frac{1}{sqrt{2}}}=-frac{e}{sqrt{2}}.$$
It is clear, from this last expression, that since there is a $vert tvert$ in the denominator the limit will not exist because $xto3^+implies tto0^+implies vert tvert=t$.
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Thank you very much.So what was missing on my work was using taylor expansions of $e^{sqrt(1-t)}$.But how could i know that the answer i obtained $(0)$ was incorrect and that i should have expanded $e^{sqrt(1-t)}$?
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– Turan Nasibli
Jan 13 at 23:54
1
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Generally, you should expand each term up to the same order, in this case order $2$. You did not do such thing with $exp(sqrt{1-t})$
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– Denis28
Jan 13 at 23:59
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I didn't know that,thanks a lot.
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– Turan Nasibli
Jan 14 at 0:03
add a comment |
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Considering the limit $$lim_{xto3^-}frac{e^{frac{-1}{(3-x)^2}}+e(4-3cos(x-3))^{1/5}-e^{sqrt {4-x}}}{sqrt {1-cos(x-3)}}to{small{begin{bmatrix}
&t=x-3&\
&tto0^-&
end{bmatrix}}}tolim_{tto0^-}frac{e^{-frac{1}{t^2}}+e(4-3cos t)^{1/5}-e^{sqrt {1-t}}}{sqrt {1-cos t}}$$
And, as you mentioned it is enough to consider the limit
$$lim_{tto0^-}frac{e(4-3cos t)^{1/5}-e^{sqrt {1-t}}}{sqrt {1-cos t}}.$$
Using Taylor Series, we have
$$begin{aligned}
&(4-3cos t)^{1/5}sim 1+frac{3 t^2}{10}+cdots \
&e^{sqrt{1-t}}sim e-frac{e t}{2}+cdots\
&cos(t)sim1-frac{t^2}{2}+cdots
end{aligned}$$
and substituting (and noting that the asymptotic terms $to0$ as $tto0$) we have
$$lim_{tto0^-}frac{e+frac{3et^2}{10}-e+frac{e t}{2}}{frac{vert tvert}{sqrt{2}}}=-lim_{tto0^-}frac{frac{3et}{10}+frac{e}{2}}{frac{1}{sqrt{2}}}=-frac{e}{sqrt{2}}.$$
It is clear, from this last expression, that since there is a $vert tvert$ in the denominator the limit will not exist because $xto3^+implies tto0^+implies vert tvert=t$.
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$begingroup$
Thank you very much.So what was missing on my work was using taylor expansions of $e^{sqrt(1-t)}$.But how could i know that the answer i obtained $(0)$ was incorrect and that i should have expanded $e^{sqrt(1-t)}$?
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– Turan Nasibli
Jan 13 at 23:54
1
$begingroup$
Generally, you should expand each term up to the same order, in this case order $2$. You did not do such thing with $exp(sqrt{1-t})$
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– Denis28
Jan 13 at 23:59
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I didn't know that,thanks a lot.
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– Turan Nasibli
Jan 14 at 0:03
add a comment |
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Considering the limit $$lim_{xto3^-}frac{e^{frac{-1}{(3-x)^2}}+e(4-3cos(x-3))^{1/5}-e^{sqrt {4-x}}}{sqrt {1-cos(x-3)}}to{small{begin{bmatrix}
&t=x-3&\
&tto0^-&
end{bmatrix}}}tolim_{tto0^-}frac{e^{-frac{1}{t^2}}+e(4-3cos t)^{1/5}-e^{sqrt {1-t}}}{sqrt {1-cos t}}$$
And, as you mentioned it is enough to consider the limit
$$lim_{tto0^-}frac{e(4-3cos t)^{1/5}-e^{sqrt {1-t}}}{sqrt {1-cos t}}.$$
Using Taylor Series, we have
$$begin{aligned}
&(4-3cos t)^{1/5}sim 1+frac{3 t^2}{10}+cdots \
&e^{sqrt{1-t}}sim e-frac{e t}{2}+cdots\
&cos(t)sim1-frac{t^2}{2}+cdots
end{aligned}$$
and substituting (and noting that the asymptotic terms $to0$ as $tto0$) we have
$$lim_{tto0^-}frac{e+frac{3et^2}{10}-e+frac{e t}{2}}{frac{vert tvert}{sqrt{2}}}=-lim_{tto0^-}frac{frac{3et}{10}+frac{e}{2}}{frac{1}{sqrt{2}}}=-frac{e}{sqrt{2}}.$$
It is clear, from this last expression, that since there is a $vert tvert$ in the denominator the limit will not exist because $xto3^+implies tto0^+implies vert tvert=t$.
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Considering the limit $$lim_{xto3^-}frac{e^{frac{-1}{(3-x)^2}}+e(4-3cos(x-3))^{1/5}-e^{sqrt {4-x}}}{sqrt {1-cos(x-3)}}to{small{begin{bmatrix}
&t=x-3&\
&tto0^-&
end{bmatrix}}}tolim_{tto0^-}frac{e^{-frac{1}{t^2}}+e(4-3cos t)^{1/5}-e^{sqrt {1-t}}}{sqrt {1-cos t}}$$
And, as you mentioned it is enough to consider the limit
$$lim_{tto0^-}frac{e(4-3cos t)^{1/5}-e^{sqrt {1-t}}}{sqrt {1-cos t}}.$$
Using Taylor Series, we have
$$begin{aligned}
&(4-3cos t)^{1/5}sim 1+frac{3 t^2}{10}+cdots \
&e^{sqrt{1-t}}sim e-frac{e t}{2}+cdots\
&cos(t)sim1-frac{t^2}{2}+cdots
end{aligned}$$
and substituting (and noting that the asymptotic terms $to0$ as $tto0$) we have
$$lim_{tto0^-}frac{e+frac{3et^2}{10}-e+frac{e t}{2}}{frac{vert tvert}{sqrt{2}}}=-lim_{tto0^-}frac{frac{3et}{10}+frac{e}{2}}{frac{1}{sqrt{2}}}=-frac{e}{sqrt{2}}.$$
It is clear, from this last expression, that since there is a $vert tvert$ in the denominator the limit will not exist because $xto3^+implies tto0^+implies vert tvert=t$.
answered Jan 13 at 23:42
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Thank you very much.So what was missing on my work was using taylor expansions of $e^{sqrt(1-t)}$.But how could i know that the answer i obtained $(0)$ was incorrect and that i should have expanded $e^{sqrt(1-t)}$?
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– Turan Nasibli
Jan 13 at 23:54
1
$begingroup$
Generally, you should expand each term up to the same order, in this case order $2$. You did not do such thing with $exp(sqrt{1-t})$
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– Denis28
Jan 13 at 23:59
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I didn't know that,thanks a lot.
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– Turan Nasibli
Jan 14 at 0:03
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Thank you very much.So what was missing on my work was using taylor expansions of $e^{sqrt(1-t)}$.But how could i know that the answer i obtained $(0)$ was incorrect and that i should have expanded $e^{sqrt(1-t)}$?
$endgroup$
– Turan Nasibli
Jan 13 at 23:54
1
$begingroup$
Generally, you should expand each term up to the same order, in this case order $2$. You did not do such thing with $exp(sqrt{1-t})$
$endgroup$
– Denis28
Jan 13 at 23:59
$begingroup$
I didn't know that,thanks a lot.
$endgroup$
– Turan Nasibli
Jan 14 at 0:03
$begingroup$
Thank you very much.So what was missing on my work was using taylor expansions of $e^{sqrt(1-t)}$.But how could i know that the answer i obtained $(0)$ was incorrect and that i should have expanded $e^{sqrt(1-t)}$?
$endgroup$
– Turan Nasibli
Jan 13 at 23:54
$begingroup$
Thank you very much.So what was missing on my work was using taylor expansions of $e^{sqrt(1-t)}$.But how could i know that the answer i obtained $(0)$ was incorrect and that i should have expanded $e^{sqrt(1-t)}$?
$endgroup$
– Turan Nasibli
Jan 13 at 23:54
1
1
$begingroup$
Generally, you should expand each term up to the same order, in this case order $2$. You did not do such thing with $exp(sqrt{1-t})$
$endgroup$
– Denis28
Jan 13 at 23:59
$begingroup$
Generally, you should expand each term up to the same order, in this case order $2$. You did not do such thing with $exp(sqrt{1-t})$
$endgroup$
– Denis28
Jan 13 at 23:59
$begingroup$
I didn't know that,thanks a lot.
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– Turan Nasibli
Jan 14 at 0:03
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I didn't know that,thanks a lot.
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– Turan Nasibli
Jan 14 at 0:03
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Depends, are you evaluating the limit from the right or left? Because as written, this limit does not exist. Also, the assertion you make with $e(1+{3t^2over2})^{1/5}=e(1+{3t^2over10})$ is not true.
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– Denis28
Jan 13 at 23:11
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@Denis28 am evaluating limit just for $xto3$ not left or right.There's a possibility that the answer $({-eoversqrt 2})$ is flawed,but how doesn't the limit exist?
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– Turan Nasibli
Jan 13 at 23:16
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when evaluating the limit as $xto3^+$ and $xto3^- $you obtain different answers, thus the limit does not exist.
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– Denis28
Jan 13 at 23:17
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Then,something must be wrong with question,i guess.
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– Turan Nasibli
Jan 13 at 23:19
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The first term in numerator can be ignored but not because it tends to $0$ but because the term divided by denominator tends to $0$. In effect one is splitting the given expression into a sum of two fractions where the first fraction uses $e^{-1/(3-x)^2}$ as numerator and this fraction tends to $0$. It is best to apply algebra of limits rather than ignore terms.
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– Paramanand Singh
Jan 14 at 4:22