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I have an equation of the following form:



$y=Acdot sin(Fcdot x)$



I want to create a sine function on a circle,somehow like the image:



enter image description here



I want it to include 6 repeats of the function therefore if the length of the circle is computed as:



length=$2cdot picdot R$ ($R$=radius)



the period will be length/6:



Period=$2cdot picdot frac{R}{6}$



and F will be:



$F=2cdot frac{pi}{Period}$



Now I was wandering how can I keep the total length of the sine curve,as well as the number of repeats (meaning the period-F) stable and change the amplitude in order to have a curve that remains of stable length while the radius of circle increases-decreases.



In order to manage this I have ended up at the intergral describing the length of a sine curve, meaning the type described in this post:
What is the length of a sine wave from $0$ to $2pi$?$0$-to-$2-pi$



I want to end up in a formula describing the amplitude in terms of length, so I want some help in understanding how do we compute the integral of a sine curve length..



Ideas, and any kind of help are welcome!



Thanking everyone in advance










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    I have an equation of the following form:



    $y=Acdot sin(Fcdot x)$



    I want to create a sine function on a circle,somehow like the image:



    enter image description here



    I want it to include 6 repeats of the function therefore if the length of the circle is computed as:



    length=$2cdot picdot R$ ($R$=radius)



    the period will be length/6:



    Period=$2cdot picdot frac{R}{6}$



    and F will be:



    $F=2cdot frac{pi}{Period}$



    Now I was wandering how can I keep the total length of the sine curve,as well as the number of repeats (meaning the period-F) stable and change the amplitude in order to have a curve that remains of stable length while the radius of circle increases-decreases.



    In order to manage this I have ended up at the intergral describing the length of a sine curve, meaning the type described in this post:
    What is the length of a sine wave from $0$ to $2pi$?$0$-to-$2-pi$



    I want to end up in a formula describing the amplitude in terms of length, so I want some help in understanding how do we compute the integral of a sine curve length..



    Ideas, and any kind of help are welcome!



    Thanking everyone in advance










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      I have an equation of the following form:



      $y=Acdot sin(Fcdot x)$



      I want to create a sine function on a circle,somehow like the image:



      enter image description here



      I want it to include 6 repeats of the function therefore if the length of the circle is computed as:



      length=$2cdot picdot R$ ($R$=radius)



      the period will be length/6:



      Period=$2cdot picdot frac{R}{6}$



      and F will be:



      $F=2cdot frac{pi}{Period}$



      Now I was wandering how can I keep the total length of the sine curve,as well as the number of repeats (meaning the period-F) stable and change the amplitude in order to have a curve that remains of stable length while the radius of circle increases-decreases.



      In order to manage this I have ended up at the intergral describing the length of a sine curve, meaning the type described in this post:
      What is the length of a sine wave from $0$ to $2pi$?$0$-to-$2-pi$



      I want to end up in a formula describing the amplitude in terms of length, so I want some help in understanding how do we compute the integral of a sine curve length..



      Ideas, and any kind of help are welcome!



      Thanking everyone in advance










      share|cite|improve this question











      $endgroup$




      I have an equation of the following form:



      $y=Acdot sin(Fcdot x)$



      I want to create a sine function on a circle,somehow like the image:



      enter image description here



      I want it to include 6 repeats of the function therefore if the length of the circle is computed as:



      length=$2cdot picdot R$ ($R$=radius)



      the period will be length/6:



      Period=$2cdot picdot frac{R}{6}$



      and F will be:



      $F=2cdot frac{pi}{Period}$



      Now I was wandering how can I keep the total length of the sine curve,as well as the number of repeats (meaning the period-F) stable and change the amplitude in order to have a curve that remains of stable length while the radius of circle increases-decreases.



      In order to manage this I have ended up at the intergral describing the length of a sine curve, meaning the type described in this post:
      What is the length of a sine wave from $0$ to $2pi$?$0$-to-$2-pi$



      I want to end up in a formula describing the amplitude in terms of length, so I want some help in understanding how do we compute the integral of a sine curve length..



      Ideas, and any kind of help are welcome!



      Thanking everyone in advance







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          Hint:



          You can use an equation in polar coordinates of the form:
          $$
          r=R+asin(ntheta)
          $$
          or
          $$
          r=R+acos(ntheta)
          $$
          that represent an oscillation around a circle of radius R with $n$ oscillations of amplitude $a$.



          See here for an exemple.






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          • $begingroup$
            thanks for the quick answer!This seems to be altering the sine function,though..It doesn't result in a symmetrical distribution of values
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            – Georgia Skartadou
            May 31 '15 at 15:40










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            I have added an amplitude for the oscillations, but I don't understand what you mean for ''symmetrical distribution''.
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            May 31 '15 at 15:50












          • $begingroup$
            I mean that it looks as though the distances moved from the central axis(a circle with a radius of 4) are not equal for the points inside the circle and for the points outside of it. I have one more question though: how do polar coordinates ensure that the total length of the sine curve remains unmodified?What I want to achieve can be described as a thread of given length that follows the circular path of a sine curve and when the radius grows up it gets more streched
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          r=R+asin(ntheta)
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          or
          $$
          r=R+acos(ntheta)
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          • $begingroup$
            thanks for the quick answer!This seems to be altering the sine function,though..It doesn't result in a symmetrical distribution of values
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            – Georgia Skartadou
            May 31 '15 at 15:40










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            I have added an amplitude for the oscillations, but I don't understand what you mean for ''symmetrical distribution''.
            $endgroup$
            – Emilio Novati
            May 31 '15 at 15:50












          • $begingroup$
            I mean that it looks as though the distances moved from the central axis(a circle with a radius of 4) are not equal for the points inside the circle and for the points outside of it. I have one more question though: how do polar coordinates ensure that the total length of the sine curve remains unmodified?What I want to achieve can be described as a thread of given length that follows the circular path of a sine curve and when the radius grows up it gets more streched
            $endgroup$
            – Georgia Skartadou
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          $begingroup$

          Hint:



          You can use an equation in polar coordinates of the form:
          $$
          r=R+asin(ntheta)
          $$
          or
          $$
          r=R+acos(ntheta)
          $$
          that represent an oscillation around a circle of radius R with $n$ oscillations of amplitude $a$.



          See here for an exemple.






          share|cite|improve this answer











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          • $begingroup$
            thanks for the quick answer!This seems to be altering the sine function,though..It doesn't result in a symmetrical distribution of values
            $endgroup$
            – Georgia Skartadou
            May 31 '15 at 15:40










          • $begingroup$
            I have added an amplitude for the oscillations, but I don't understand what you mean for ''symmetrical distribution''.
            $endgroup$
            – Emilio Novati
            May 31 '15 at 15:50












          • $begingroup$
            I mean that it looks as though the distances moved from the central axis(a circle with a radius of 4) are not equal for the points inside the circle and for the points outside of it. I have one more question though: how do polar coordinates ensure that the total length of the sine curve remains unmodified?What I want to achieve can be described as a thread of given length that follows the circular path of a sine curve and when the radius grows up it gets more streched
            $endgroup$
            – Georgia Skartadou
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          Hint:



          You can use an equation in polar coordinates of the form:
          $$
          r=R+asin(ntheta)
          $$
          or
          $$
          r=R+acos(ntheta)
          $$
          that represent an oscillation around a circle of radius R with $n$ oscillations of amplitude $a$.



          See here for an exemple.






          share|cite|improve this answer











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          Hint:



          You can use an equation in polar coordinates of the form:
          $$
          r=R+asin(ntheta)
          $$
          or
          $$
          r=R+acos(ntheta)
          $$
          that represent an oscillation around a circle of radius R with $n$ oscillations of amplitude $a$.



          See here for an exemple.







          share|cite|improve this answer














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          answered May 31 '15 at 15:36









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          • $begingroup$
            thanks for the quick answer!This seems to be altering the sine function,though..It doesn't result in a symmetrical distribution of values
            $endgroup$
            – Georgia Skartadou
            May 31 '15 at 15:40










          • $begingroup$
            I have added an amplitude for the oscillations, but I don't understand what you mean for ''symmetrical distribution''.
            $endgroup$
            – Emilio Novati
            May 31 '15 at 15:50












          • $begingroup$
            I mean that it looks as though the distances moved from the central axis(a circle with a radius of 4) are not equal for the points inside the circle and for the points outside of it. I have one more question though: how do polar coordinates ensure that the total length of the sine curve remains unmodified?What I want to achieve can be described as a thread of given length that follows the circular path of a sine curve and when the radius grows up it gets more streched
            $endgroup$
            – Georgia Skartadou
            May 31 '15 at 16:55


















          • $begingroup$
            thanks for the quick answer!This seems to be altering the sine function,though..It doesn't result in a symmetrical distribution of values
            $endgroup$
            – Georgia Skartadou
            May 31 '15 at 15:40










          • $begingroup$
            I have added an amplitude for the oscillations, but I don't understand what you mean for ''symmetrical distribution''.
            $endgroup$
            – Emilio Novati
            May 31 '15 at 15:50












          • $begingroup$
            I mean that it looks as though the distances moved from the central axis(a circle with a radius of 4) are not equal for the points inside the circle and for the points outside of it. I have one more question though: how do polar coordinates ensure that the total length of the sine curve remains unmodified?What I want to achieve can be described as a thread of given length that follows the circular path of a sine curve and when the radius grows up it gets more streched
            $endgroup$
            – Georgia Skartadou
            May 31 '15 at 16:55
















          $begingroup$
          thanks for the quick answer!This seems to be altering the sine function,though..It doesn't result in a symmetrical distribution of values
          $endgroup$
          – Georgia Skartadou
          May 31 '15 at 15:40




          $begingroup$
          thanks for the quick answer!This seems to be altering the sine function,though..It doesn't result in a symmetrical distribution of values
          $endgroup$
          – Georgia Skartadou
          May 31 '15 at 15:40












          $begingroup$
          I have added an amplitude for the oscillations, but I don't understand what you mean for ''symmetrical distribution''.
          $endgroup$
          – Emilio Novati
          May 31 '15 at 15:50






          $begingroup$
          I have added an amplitude for the oscillations, but I don't understand what you mean for ''symmetrical distribution''.
          $endgroup$
          – Emilio Novati
          May 31 '15 at 15:50














          $begingroup$
          I mean that it looks as though the distances moved from the central axis(a circle with a radius of 4) are not equal for the points inside the circle and for the points outside of it. I have one more question though: how do polar coordinates ensure that the total length of the sine curve remains unmodified?What I want to achieve can be described as a thread of given length that follows the circular path of a sine curve and when the radius grows up it gets more streched
          $endgroup$
          – Georgia Skartadou
          May 31 '15 at 16:55




          $begingroup$
          I mean that it looks as though the distances moved from the central axis(a circle with a radius of 4) are not equal for the points inside the circle and for the points outside of it. I have one more question though: how do polar coordinates ensure that the total length of the sine curve remains unmodified?What I want to achieve can be described as a thread of given length that follows the circular path of a sine curve and when the radius grows up it gets more streched
          $endgroup$
          – Georgia Skartadou
          May 31 '15 at 16:55


















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