Bounded function in $[0,1]$ without max and min.
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Do we have a function $f$ defined in $[0, 1]$, which is bounded but has no maximum and minimum ?
I do know that $arctan x$ can give me a hint, which is bounded without max and min but that's in $mathbb R$.
Thanks!
EDITED:
Firstly thank all the answers that I received.
I would like to ask a little additional question: could we find some edited or mixed trigonometric functions to satisfy this problem?
If yes, a example please!
The reason is, that I got stuck with the idea of $arctan x$ and other possible trigonometric functions.
Thanks!
real-analysis calculus trigonometry
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Do we have a function $f$ defined in $[0, 1]$, which is bounded but has no maximum and minimum ?
I do know that $arctan x$ can give me a hint, which is bounded without max and min but that's in $mathbb R$.
Thanks!
EDITED:
Firstly thank all the answers that I received.
I would like to ask a little additional question: could we find some edited or mixed trigonometric functions to satisfy this problem?
If yes, a example please!
The reason is, that I got stuck with the idea of $arctan x$ and other possible trigonometric functions.
Thanks!
real-analysis calculus trigonometry
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Not if your function is continuous. Check for instance en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_value_theorem
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– Mindlack
Dec 16 '18 at 11:36
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Thanks for the re-edit!
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– Jigao
Dec 16 '18 at 11:52
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Do we have a function $f$ defined in $[0, 1]$, which is bounded but has no maximum and minimum ?
I do know that $arctan x$ can give me a hint, which is bounded without max and min but that's in $mathbb R$.
Thanks!
EDITED:
Firstly thank all the answers that I received.
I would like to ask a little additional question: could we find some edited or mixed trigonometric functions to satisfy this problem?
If yes, a example please!
The reason is, that I got stuck with the idea of $arctan x$ and other possible trigonometric functions.
Thanks!
real-analysis calculus trigonometry
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Do we have a function $f$ defined in $[0, 1]$, which is bounded but has no maximum and minimum ?
I do know that $arctan x$ can give me a hint, which is bounded without max and min but that's in $mathbb R$.
Thanks!
EDITED:
Firstly thank all the answers that I received.
I would like to ask a little additional question: could we find some edited or mixed trigonometric functions to satisfy this problem?
If yes, a example please!
The reason is, that I got stuck with the idea of $arctan x$ and other possible trigonometric functions.
Thanks!
real-analysis calculus trigonometry
real-analysis calculus trigonometry
edited Dec 16 '18 at 12:22
Jigao
asked Dec 16 '18 at 11:34
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Not if your function is continuous. Check for instance en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_value_theorem
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– Mindlack
Dec 16 '18 at 11:36
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Thanks for the re-edit!
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– Jigao
Dec 16 '18 at 11:52
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Not if your function is continuous. Check for instance en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_value_theorem
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– Mindlack
Dec 16 '18 at 11:36
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Thanks for the re-edit!
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– Jigao
Dec 16 '18 at 11:52
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Not if your function is continuous. Check for instance en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_value_theorem
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– Mindlack
Dec 16 '18 at 11:36
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Not if your function is continuous. Check for instance en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_value_theorem
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– Mindlack
Dec 16 '18 at 11:36
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Thanks for the re-edit!
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– Jigao
Dec 16 '18 at 11:52
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Thanks for the re-edit!
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You cannot have a purely trigonometric function defined on $[0,1]$ that does not attain its max/min because it would be continuous and the extreme value theorem would apply.
$$
f(x)=begin{cases}(1-x)sin(frac 1x) &; xin(0,1]\
0 &; x=0
end{cases}
$$
This function is almost a trigonometric function as you specified. It has $sup_{xin[0,1]} f(x)=1$ and $inf_{xin[0,1]} f(x)=-1$ but those values are not attained.
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$f(x)=x$ if $.25<x<.75$, and $f(x)=0.5$ otherwise
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The function $f$ defined below has $sup_{xin[0,1]} f(x)=1$ and $inf_{xin[0,1]} f(x)=-1$ but doesn't attain those values.
$$
f(x)=begin{cases}frac {(-1)^nn}{n+1} &; x=frac 1n text{ for $ninBbb N$}\
0 &; text{otherwise}
end{cases}
$$
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The key point is continuity, without that we can construct counterexample as
$f(x)=x quad xin [0,1/2)$
$f(x)=0 quad x=1/2$
$f(x)=1-x quad xin (1/2,1]$
Refer also to Extreme value theorem.
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You cannot have a purely trigonometric function defined on $[0,1]$ that does not attain its max/min because it would be continuous and the extreme value theorem would apply.
$$
f(x)=begin{cases}(1-x)sin(frac 1x) &; xin(0,1]\
0 &; x=0
end{cases}
$$
This function is almost a trigonometric function as you specified. It has $sup_{xin[0,1]} f(x)=1$ and $inf_{xin[0,1]} f(x)=-1$ but those values are not attained.
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You cannot have a purely trigonometric function defined on $[0,1]$ that does not attain its max/min because it would be continuous and the extreme value theorem would apply.
$$
f(x)=begin{cases}(1-x)sin(frac 1x) &; xin(0,1]\
0 &; x=0
end{cases}
$$
This function is almost a trigonometric function as you specified. It has $sup_{xin[0,1]} f(x)=1$ and $inf_{xin[0,1]} f(x)=-1$ but those values are not attained.
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add a comment |
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You cannot have a purely trigonometric function defined on $[0,1]$ that does not attain its max/min because it would be continuous and the extreme value theorem would apply.
$$
f(x)=begin{cases}(1-x)sin(frac 1x) &; xin(0,1]\
0 &; x=0
end{cases}
$$
This function is almost a trigonometric function as you specified. It has $sup_{xin[0,1]} f(x)=1$ and $inf_{xin[0,1]} f(x)=-1$ but those values are not attained.
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You cannot have a purely trigonometric function defined on $[0,1]$ that does not attain its max/min because it would be continuous and the extreme value theorem would apply.
$$
f(x)=begin{cases}(1-x)sin(frac 1x) &; xin(0,1]\
0 &; x=0
end{cases}
$$
This function is almost a trigonometric function as you specified. It has $sup_{xin[0,1]} f(x)=1$ and $inf_{xin[0,1]} f(x)=-1$ but those values are not attained.
answered Dec 16 '18 at 12:20
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$f(x)=x$ if $.25<x<.75$, and $f(x)=0.5$ otherwise
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$f(x)=x$ if $.25<x<.75$, and $f(x)=0.5$ otherwise
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The function $f$ defined below has $sup_{xin[0,1]} f(x)=1$ and $inf_{xin[0,1]} f(x)=-1$ but doesn't attain those values.
$$
f(x)=begin{cases}frac {(-1)^nn}{n+1} &; x=frac 1n text{ for $ninBbb N$}\
0 &; text{otherwise}
end{cases}
$$
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The function $f$ defined below has $sup_{xin[0,1]} f(x)=1$ and $inf_{xin[0,1]} f(x)=-1$ but doesn't attain those values.
$$
f(x)=begin{cases}frac {(-1)^nn}{n+1} &; x=frac 1n text{ for $ninBbb N$}\
0 &; text{otherwise}
end{cases}
$$
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The function $f$ defined below has $sup_{xin[0,1]} f(x)=1$ and $inf_{xin[0,1]} f(x)=-1$ but doesn't attain those values.
$$
f(x)=begin{cases}frac {(-1)^nn}{n+1} &; x=frac 1n text{ for $ninBbb N$}\
0 &; text{otherwise}
end{cases}
$$
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The function $f$ defined below has $sup_{xin[0,1]} f(x)=1$ and $inf_{xin[0,1]} f(x)=-1$ but doesn't attain those values.
$$
f(x)=begin{cases}frac {(-1)^nn}{n+1} &; x=frac 1n text{ for $ninBbb N$}\
0 &; text{otherwise}
end{cases}
$$
answered Dec 16 '18 at 12:01
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The key point is continuity, without that we can construct counterexample as
$f(x)=x quad xin [0,1/2)$
$f(x)=0 quad x=1/2$
$f(x)=1-x quad xin (1/2,1]$
Refer also to Extreme value theorem.
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add a comment |
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The key point is continuity, without that we can construct counterexample as
$f(x)=x quad xin [0,1/2)$
$f(x)=0 quad x=1/2$
$f(x)=1-x quad xin (1/2,1]$
Refer also to Extreme value theorem.
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add a comment |
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The key point is continuity, without that we can construct counterexample as
$f(x)=x quad xin [0,1/2)$
$f(x)=0 quad x=1/2$
$f(x)=1-x quad xin (1/2,1]$
Refer also to Extreme value theorem.
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The key point is continuity, without that we can construct counterexample as
$f(x)=x quad xin [0,1/2)$
$f(x)=0 quad x=1/2$
$f(x)=1-x quad xin (1/2,1]$
Refer also to Extreme value theorem.
answered Dec 16 '18 at 12:08
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Not if your function is continuous. Check for instance en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_value_theorem
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