Continuous function $ f:operatorname{SO}(3) to operatorname{SU}(2)$











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Given the usual surjective homomorphism $ Φ:operatorname{SU}(2)to operatorname{SO}(3)$ that maps a quaternion to a rotation matrix,



Does there exist a continuous function $f:operatorname{SO}(3)to operatorname{SU}(2)$
such that $ Phi circ f = operatorname{Id}$ on $operatorname{SO}(3)$?



If yes, what would be this map be?



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    No. It’s like trying to define a continuous square root in the complex plane. An element of SO(3) has an axis and an angle of rotation. The corresponding element of SU(2) has one half the angle.
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Given the usual surjective homomorphism $ Φ:operatorname{SU}(2)to operatorname{SO}(3)$ that maps a quaternion to a rotation matrix,



Does there exist a continuous function $f:operatorname{SO}(3)to operatorname{SU}(2)$
such that $ Phi circ f = operatorname{Id}$ on $operatorname{SO}(3)$?



If yes, what would be this map be?



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    No. It’s like trying to define a continuous square root in the complex plane. An element of SO(3) has an axis and an angle of rotation. The corresponding element of SU(2) has one half the angle.
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Given the usual surjective homomorphism $ Φ:operatorname{SU}(2)to operatorname{SO}(3)$ that maps a quaternion to a rotation matrix,



Does there exist a continuous function $f:operatorname{SO}(3)to operatorname{SU}(2)$
such that $ Phi circ f = operatorname{Id}$ on $operatorname{SO}(3)$?



If yes, what would be this map be?



Thank you










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Given the usual surjective homomorphism $ Φ:operatorname{SU}(2)to operatorname{SO}(3)$ that maps a quaternion to a rotation matrix,



Does there exist a continuous function $f:operatorname{SO}(3)to operatorname{SU}(2)$
such that $ Phi circ f = operatorname{Id}$ on $operatorname{SO}(3)$?



If yes, what would be this map be?



Thank you







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    No. It’s like trying to define a continuous square root in the complex plane. An element of SO(3) has an axis and an angle of rotation. The corresponding element of SU(2) has one half the angle.
    – Charlie Frohman
    Dec 2 at 19:27
















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    No. It’s like trying to define a continuous square root in the complex plane. An element of SO(3) has an axis and an angle of rotation. The corresponding element of SU(2) has one half the angle.
    – Charlie Frohman
    Dec 2 at 19:27










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No. It’s like trying to define a continuous square root in the complex plane. An element of SO(3) has an axis and an angle of rotation. The corresponding element of SU(2) has one half the angle.
– Charlie Frohman
Dec 2 at 19:27






No. It’s like trying to define a continuous square root in the complex plane. An element of SO(3) has an axis and an angle of rotation. The corresponding element of SU(2) has one half the angle.
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No. A map $f$ as in your question would induce an embedding of fundamental groups $f_* :pi_1(text{SO(3)}) to pi_1(text{SU}(2))$.



If you look at Fundamental group of $SO(3)$, you will see that $pi_1(text{SU}(2)) = 0$, while $pi_1(text{SO(3)}) = mathbb{Z}_2$. Therefore $f$ cannot exist.






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No. A map $f$ as in your question would induce an embedding of fundamental groups $f_* :pi_1(text{SO(3)}) to pi_1(text{SU}(2))$.



If you look at Fundamental group of $SO(3)$, you will see that $pi_1(text{SU}(2)) = 0$, while $pi_1(text{SO(3)}) = mathbb{Z}_2$. Therefore $f$ cannot exist.






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No. A map $f$ as in your question would induce an embedding of fundamental groups $f_* :pi_1(text{SO(3)}) to pi_1(text{SU}(2))$.



If you look at Fundamental group of $SO(3)$, you will see that $pi_1(text{SU}(2)) = 0$, while $pi_1(text{SO(3)}) = mathbb{Z}_2$. Therefore $f$ cannot exist.






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No. A map $f$ as in your question would induce an embedding of fundamental groups $f_* :pi_1(text{SO(3)}) to pi_1(text{SU}(2))$.



If you look at Fundamental group of $SO(3)$, you will see that $pi_1(text{SU}(2)) = 0$, while $pi_1(text{SO(3)}) = mathbb{Z}_2$. Therefore $f$ cannot exist.






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No. A map $f$ as in your question would induce an embedding of fundamental groups $f_* :pi_1(text{SO(3)}) to pi_1(text{SU}(2))$.



If you look at Fundamental group of $SO(3)$, you will see that $pi_1(text{SU}(2)) = 0$, while $pi_1(text{SO(3)}) = mathbb{Z}_2$. Therefore $f$ cannot exist.







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