What are the complex roots of $x^3-1$?
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What are the complex roots of $x^3-1$?
Work I've done so far:
I've set $x = a + bi$. Since $x^3-1=0$, I set $x^3 = (a+bi)^3=1$.
This gives me the following:
(1) $(-ab^2 + a^3) + (2ab^2 + 2a^2b + a^2b - b^3)i$
Which means that I set $(-ab^2 + a^3) = a(a^2-b^2)= 1$ which is also equivalent to
(2) $a(a-b)(a+b)=(a-b)(a^2+ab)=1$.
I also set
(3) $(2ab^2 + 2a^2b + a^2b - b^3) = 0$.
I simplify (3) to
(4) $2b(a^2 + ab) + (a^2 -b^2)b = 0 $
which gives me
(5) $frac{2b}{a-b} + frac{b}{a} = 0$ using (2).
Then I get
(6) $frac{2b}{a-b} = -frac{b}{a}$. Then I get that $3a=b$. Plugging into (2) I get
(7) $a(a^2 - (3a)^2)=1 = a(a^2 -9a^2) = -8a^3$. So that $a= frac{-1}{2}$. Now I get that $b= frac{3}{2}$, which would give me $frac{1}{2} + frac{3}{2}i$. But on Wolfram, the imaginary component is close to $.9$. Where am I going wrong?
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What are the complex roots of $x^3-1$?
Work I've done so far:
I've set $x = a + bi$. Since $x^3-1=0$, I set $x^3 = (a+bi)^3=1$.
This gives me the following:
(1) $(-ab^2 + a^3) + (2ab^2 + 2a^2b + a^2b - b^3)i$
Which means that I set $(-ab^2 + a^3) = a(a^2-b^2)= 1$ which is also equivalent to
(2) $a(a-b)(a+b)=(a-b)(a^2+ab)=1$.
I also set
(3) $(2ab^2 + 2a^2b + a^2b - b^3) = 0$.
I simplify (3) to
(4) $2b(a^2 + ab) + (a^2 -b^2)b = 0 $
which gives me
(5) $frac{2b}{a-b} + frac{b}{a} = 0$ using (2).
Then I get
(6) $frac{2b}{a-b} = -frac{b}{a}$. Then I get that $3a=b$. Plugging into (2) I get
(7) $a(a^2 - (3a)^2)=1 = a(a^2 -9a^2) = -8a^3$. So that $a= frac{-1}{2}$. Now I get that $b= frac{3}{2}$, which would give me $frac{1}{2} + frac{3}{2}i$. But on Wolfram, the imaginary component is close to $.9$. Where am I going wrong?
complex-analysis
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(1) is already erroneous.
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Dec 2 at 20:46
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It would be better to factor $x^3-1$ first.
– Abraham Zhang
Dec 2 at 20:47
@LordSharktheUnknown: Is the algebra incorrect?
– K.M
Dec 2 at 20:52
1
@K.M Yes, your algebraic manipulations are incorrect. Use Pascal's triangle to see where your binomial expansion went wrong.
– Scounged
Dec 2 at 20:54
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What are the complex roots of $x^3-1$?
Work I've done so far:
I've set $x = a + bi$. Since $x^3-1=0$, I set $x^3 = (a+bi)^3=1$.
This gives me the following:
(1) $(-ab^2 + a^3) + (2ab^2 + 2a^2b + a^2b - b^3)i$
Which means that I set $(-ab^2 + a^3) = a(a^2-b^2)= 1$ which is also equivalent to
(2) $a(a-b)(a+b)=(a-b)(a^2+ab)=1$.
I also set
(3) $(2ab^2 + 2a^2b + a^2b - b^3) = 0$.
I simplify (3) to
(4) $2b(a^2 + ab) + (a^2 -b^2)b = 0 $
which gives me
(5) $frac{2b}{a-b} + frac{b}{a} = 0$ using (2).
Then I get
(6) $frac{2b}{a-b} = -frac{b}{a}$. Then I get that $3a=b$. Plugging into (2) I get
(7) $a(a^2 - (3a)^2)=1 = a(a^2 -9a^2) = -8a^3$. So that $a= frac{-1}{2}$. Now I get that $b= frac{3}{2}$, which would give me $frac{1}{2} + frac{3}{2}i$. But on Wolfram, the imaginary component is close to $.9$. Where am I going wrong?
complex-analysis
What are the complex roots of $x^3-1$?
Work I've done so far:
I've set $x = a + bi$. Since $x^3-1=0$, I set $x^3 = (a+bi)^3=1$.
This gives me the following:
(1) $(-ab^2 + a^3) + (2ab^2 + 2a^2b + a^2b - b^3)i$
Which means that I set $(-ab^2 + a^3) = a(a^2-b^2)= 1$ which is also equivalent to
(2) $a(a-b)(a+b)=(a-b)(a^2+ab)=1$.
I also set
(3) $(2ab^2 + 2a^2b + a^2b - b^3) = 0$.
I simplify (3) to
(4) $2b(a^2 + ab) + (a^2 -b^2)b = 0 $
which gives me
(5) $frac{2b}{a-b} + frac{b}{a} = 0$ using (2).
Then I get
(6) $frac{2b}{a-b} = -frac{b}{a}$. Then I get that $3a=b$. Plugging into (2) I get
(7) $a(a^2 - (3a)^2)=1 = a(a^2 -9a^2) = -8a^3$. So that $a= frac{-1}{2}$. Now I get that $b= frac{3}{2}$, which would give me $frac{1}{2} + frac{3}{2}i$. But on Wolfram, the imaginary component is close to $.9$. Where am I going wrong?
complex-analysis
complex-analysis
edited Dec 2 at 20:56
asked Dec 2 at 20:44
K.M
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(1) is already erroneous.
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Dec 2 at 20:46
1
It would be better to factor $x^3-1$ first.
– Abraham Zhang
Dec 2 at 20:47
@LordSharktheUnknown: Is the algebra incorrect?
– K.M
Dec 2 at 20:52
1
@K.M Yes, your algebraic manipulations are incorrect. Use Pascal's triangle to see where your binomial expansion went wrong.
– Scounged
Dec 2 at 20:54
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4
(1) is already erroneous.
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Dec 2 at 20:46
1
It would be better to factor $x^3-1$ first.
– Abraham Zhang
Dec 2 at 20:47
@LordSharktheUnknown: Is the algebra incorrect?
– K.M
Dec 2 at 20:52
1
@K.M Yes, your algebraic manipulations are incorrect. Use Pascal's triangle to see where your binomial expansion went wrong.
– Scounged
Dec 2 at 20:54
4
4
(1) is already erroneous.
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Dec 2 at 20:46
(1) is already erroneous.
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Dec 2 at 20:46
1
1
It would be better to factor $x^3-1$ first.
– Abraham Zhang
Dec 2 at 20:47
It would be better to factor $x^3-1$ first.
– Abraham Zhang
Dec 2 at 20:47
@LordSharktheUnknown: Is the algebra incorrect?
– K.M
Dec 2 at 20:52
@LordSharktheUnknown: Is the algebra incorrect?
– K.M
Dec 2 at 20:52
1
1
@K.M Yes, your algebraic manipulations are incorrect. Use Pascal's triangle to see where your binomial expansion went wrong.
– Scounged
Dec 2 at 20:54
@K.M Yes, your algebraic manipulations are incorrect. Use Pascal's triangle to see where your binomial expansion went wrong.
– Scounged
Dec 2 at 20:54
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Hint:
The simpler way is to factorize:
$$
x^3-1=(x-1)(x^2+x+1)
$$
can you find all the roots?
Anyway, your algebra is wrong because:
$$
(a+ib)^3=a^3+3a^2(ib)+3a(ib)^2+(ib)^3=a^3-3ab^2+i(3a^2b-b^3)
$$
1
Thank you for not just giving the hint about an easier solution technique, but also for identifying exactly where the asker has gone astray.
– T. Bongers
Dec 2 at 21:06
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You can just use difference of cubes, which gets the answer much more quickly:
$$a^3-b^3 = (a-b)(a^2+ab+b^2)$$
Applying it here, you get
$$x^3-1 = (x-1)(x^2+x+1) = 0$$
The first factor obviously gives the real root of $x = 1$, so solve for the second factor. It should be pretty straightforward.
As for your error, you have expanded incorrectly in $(1)$. Recall that
$$(a+b)^3 = a^3+3a^2b+3ab^2+b^3$$
and you apply it to
$$(a+bi)^3$$
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2 Answers
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2 Answers
2
active
oldest
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active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
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up vote
6
down vote
accepted
Hint:
The simpler way is to factorize:
$$
x^3-1=(x-1)(x^2+x+1)
$$
can you find all the roots?
Anyway, your algebra is wrong because:
$$
(a+ib)^3=a^3+3a^2(ib)+3a(ib)^2+(ib)^3=a^3-3ab^2+i(3a^2b-b^3)
$$
1
Thank you for not just giving the hint about an easier solution technique, but also for identifying exactly where the asker has gone astray.
– T. Bongers
Dec 2 at 21:06
add a comment |
up vote
6
down vote
accepted
Hint:
The simpler way is to factorize:
$$
x^3-1=(x-1)(x^2+x+1)
$$
can you find all the roots?
Anyway, your algebra is wrong because:
$$
(a+ib)^3=a^3+3a^2(ib)+3a(ib)^2+(ib)^3=a^3-3ab^2+i(3a^2b-b^3)
$$
1
Thank you for not just giving the hint about an easier solution technique, but also for identifying exactly where the asker has gone astray.
– T. Bongers
Dec 2 at 21:06
add a comment |
up vote
6
down vote
accepted
up vote
6
down vote
accepted
Hint:
The simpler way is to factorize:
$$
x^3-1=(x-1)(x^2+x+1)
$$
can you find all the roots?
Anyway, your algebra is wrong because:
$$
(a+ib)^3=a^3+3a^2(ib)+3a(ib)^2+(ib)^3=a^3-3ab^2+i(3a^2b-b^3)
$$
Hint:
The simpler way is to factorize:
$$
x^3-1=(x-1)(x^2+x+1)
$$
can you find all the roots?
Anyway, your algebra is wrong because:
$$
(a+ib)^3=a^3+3a^2(ib)+3a(ib)^2+(ib)^3=a^3-3ab^2+i(3a^2b-b^3)
$$
edited Dec 2 at 21:03
answered Dec 2 at 20:47
Emilio Novati
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51.2k43472
1
Thank you for not just giving the hint about an easier solution technique, but also for identifying exactly where the asker has gone astray.
– T. Bongers
Dec 2 at 21:06
add a comment |
1
Thank you for not just giving the hint about an easier solution technique, but also for identifying exactly where the asker has gone astray.
– T. Bongers
Dec 2 at 21:06
1
1
Thank you for not just giving the hint about an easier solution technique, but also for identifying exactly where the asker has gone astray.
– T. Bongers
Dec 2 at 21:06
Thank you for not just giving the hint about an easier solution technique, but also for identifying exactly where the asker has gone astray.
– T. Bongers
Dec 2 at 21:06
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
You can just use difference of cubes, which gets the answer much more quickly:
$$a^3-b^3 = (a-b)(a^2+ab+b^2)$$
Applying it here, you get
$$x^3-1 = (x-1)(x^2+x+1) = 0$$
The first factor obviously gives the real root of $x = 1$, so solve for the second factor. It should be pretty straightforward.
As for your error, you have expanded incorrectly in $(1)$. Recall that
$$(a+b)^3 = a^3+3a^2b+3ab^2+b^3$$
and you apply it to
$$(a+bi)^3$$
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
You can just use difference of cubes, which gets the answer much more quickly:
$$a^3-b^3 = (a-b)(a^2+ab+b^2)$$
Applying it here, you get
$$x^3-1 = (x-1)(x^2+x+1) = 0$$
The first factor obviously gives the real root of $x = 1$, so solve for the second factor. It should be pretty straightforward.
As for your error, you have expanded incorrectly in $(1)$. Recall that
$$(a+b)^3 = a^3+3a^2b+3ab^2+b^3$$
and you apply it to
$$(a+bi)^3$$
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
You can just use difference of cubes, which gets the answer much more quickly:
$$a^3-b^3 = (a-b)(a^2+ab+b^2)$$
Applying it here, you get
$$x^3-1 = (x-1)(x^2+x+1) = 0$$
The first factor obviously gives the real root of $x = 1$, so solve for the second factor. It should be pretty straightforward.
As for your error, you have expanded incorrectly in $(1)$. Recall that
$$(a+b)^3 = a^3+3a^2b+3ab^2+b^3$$
and you apply it to
$$(a+bi)^3$$
You can just use difference of cubes, which gets the answer much more quickly:
$$a^3-b^3 = (a-b)(a^2+ab+b^2)$$
Applying it here, you get
$$x^3-1 = (x-1)(x^2+x+1) = 0$$
The first factor obviously gives the real root of $x = 1$, so solve for the second factor. It should be pretty straightforward.
As for your error, you have expanded incorrectly in $(1)$. Recall that
$$(a+b)^3 = a^3+3a^2b+3ab^2+b^3$$
and you apply it to
$$(a+bi)^3$$
edited Dec 2 at 21:12
answered Dec 2 at 21:00
KM101
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(1) is already erroneous.
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Dec 2 at 20:46
1
It would be better to factor $x^3-1$ first.
– Abraham Zhang
Dec 2 at 20:47
@LordSharktheUnknown: Is the algebra incorrect?
– K.M
Dec 2 at 20:52
1
@K.M Yes, your algebraic manipulations are incorrect. Use Pascal's triangle to see where your binomial expansion went wrong.
– Scounged
Dec 2 at 20:54