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So I have a group of order $2m$ with these elements:
$$(overline{0},overline{0}),(overline{1},overline{0})...(overline{m-1},overline{0})$$
$$(overline{0},overline{1})(overline{-1},overline{1})...(overline{-(m-1)},overline{1})$$



Dihedral group $D_m$ has these elements:
$$(r^0s^0)(r^1s^0)...(r^{m-1}s^0)$$
$$(r^0s^1)(r^1s^1)...(r^{m-1}s^1)$$



I want write that it is isomorphic to the dihedral group of order m. It is so obvious to me that I'm not sure how to prove it.



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  • What is the group operation on your $2m$ elements?
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    Group G of order 2m is: $$mathbb{Z}_m rtimes_{varphi} mathbb{Z}_2$$ and I am given that $varphi_{1+2mathbb{Z}}(1+mmathbb{Z}) = m-1+mmathbb{Z}$
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So I have a group of order $2m$ with these elements:
$$(overline{0},overline{0}),(overline{1},overline{0})...(overline{m-1},overline{0})$$
$$(overline{0},overline{1})(overline{-1},overline{1})...(overline{-(m-1)},overline{1})$$



Dihedral group $D_m$ has these elements:
$$(r^0s^0)(r^1s^0)...(r^{m-1}s^0)$$
$$(r^0s^1)(r^1s^1)...(r^{m-1}s^1)$$



I want write that it is isomorphic to the dihedral group of order m. It is so obvious to me that I'm not sure how to prove it.



Thanks for the help










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    Group G of order 2m is: $$mathbb{Z}_m rtimes_{varphi} mathbb{Z}_2$$ and I am given that $varphi_{1+2mathbb{Z}}(1+mmathbb{Z}) = m-1+mmathbb{Z}$
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So I have a group of order $2m$ with these elements:
$$(overline{0},overline{0}),(overline{1},overline{0})...(overline{m-1},overline{0})$$
$$(overline{0},overline{1})(overline{-1},overline{1})...(overline{-(m-1)},overline{1})$$



Dihedral group $D_m$ has these elements:
$$(r^0s^0)(r^1s^0)...(r^{m-1}s^0)$$
$$(r^0s^1)(r^1s^1)...(r^{m-1}s^1)$$



I want write that it is isomorphic to the dihedral group of order m. It is so obvious to me that I'm not sure how to prove it.



Thanks for the help










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So I have a group of order $2m$ with these elements:
$$(overline{0},overline{0}),(overline{1},overline{0})...(overline{m-1},overline{0})$$
$$(overline{0},overline{1})(overline{-1},overline{1})...(overline{-(m-1)},overline{1})$$



Dihedral group $D_m$ has these elements:
$$(r^0s^0)(r^1s^0)...(r^{m-1}s^0)$$
$$(r^0s^1)(r^1s^1)...(r^{m-1}s^1)$$



I want write that it is isomorphic to the dihedral group of order m. It is so obvious to me that I'm not sure how to prove it.



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  • What is the group operation on your $2m$ elements?
    – Servaes
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    Group G of order 2m is: $$mathbb{Z}_m rtimes_{varphi} mathbb{Z}_2$$ and I am given that $varphi_{1+2mathbb{Z}}(1+mmathbb{Z}) = m-1+mmathbb{Z}$
    – JoeyF
    Dec 2 at 20:40




















  • What is the group operation on your $2m$ elements?
    – Servaes
    Dec 2 at 20:40






  • 1




    Group G of order 2m is: $$mathbb{Z}_m rtimes_{varphi} mathbb{Z}_2$$ and I am given that $varphi_{1+2mathbb{Z}}(1+mmathbb{Z}) = m-1+mmathbb{Z}$
    – JoeyF
    Dec 2 at 20:40


















What is the group operation on your $2m$ elements?
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What is the group operation on your $2m$ elements?
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Group G of order 2m is: $$mathbb{Z}_m rtimes_{varphi} mathbb{Z}_2$$ and I am given that $varphi_{1+2mathbb{Z}}(1+mmathbb{Z}) = m-1+mmathbb{Z}$
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Group G of order 2m is: $$mathbb{Z}_m rtimes_{varphi} mathbb{Z}_2$$ and I am given that $varphi_{1+2mathbb{Z}}(1+mmathbb{Z}) = m-1+mmathbb{Z}$
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As you want to show an isomorphism with a dihedral group, how about constructing a faithful action of your group on the regular $m$-gon? This yields an injection into $D_m$, and because they are both groups of order $2m$ this must be an isomorphism.



Given that the group is constructed as a semidirect product, another approach is to take subgroups $T,Ssubset D_m$ such that $TcongBbb{Z}_m$ and $ScongBbb{Z}_2$. And show that $D_m=Trtimes_{psi}S$ where $psi: S longrightarrow operatorname{Aut}T$ is the map obtained from $varphi$ through the isomorphisms $TcongBbb{Z}_m$ and $ScongBbb{Z}_2$. Of course you want $psi$ to turn out to be the conjugation action of $S$ on $T$.






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Probably the easiest way to see is to show you have 2 generators, $r$ and $s$ with orders n and 2 respectively. Furthermore, $sr^{-1}=rs$. Hence, it is the dihedral group with 2n elements.






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    As you want to show an isomorphism with a dihedral group, how about constructing a faithful action of your group on the regular $m$-gon? This yields an injection into $D_m$, and because they are both groups of order $2m$ this must be an isomorphism.



    Given that the group is constructed as a semidirect product, another approach is to take subgroups $T,Ssubset D_m$ such that $TcongBbb{Z}_m$ and $ScongBbb{Z}_2$. And show that $D_m=Trtimes_{psi}S$ where $psi: S longrightarrow operatorname{Aut}T$ is the map obtained from $varphi$ through the isomorphisms $TcongBbb{Z}_m$ and $ScongBbb{Z}_2$. Of course you want $psi$ to turn out to be the conjugation action of $S$ on $T$.






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    As you want to show an isomorphism with a dihedral group, how about constructing a faithful action of your group on the regular $m$-gon? This yields an injection into $D_m$, and because they are both groups of order $2m$ this must be an isomorphism.



    Given that the group is constructed as a semidirect product, another approach is to take subgroups $T,Ssubset D_m$ such that $TcongBbb{Z}_m$ and $ScongBbb{Z}_2$. And show that $D_m=Trtimes_{psi}S$ where $psi: S longrightarrow operatorname{Aut}T$ is the map obtained from $varphi$ through the isomorphisms $TcongBbb{Z}_m$ and $ScongBbb{Z}_2$. Of course you want $psi$ to turn out to be the conjugation action of $S$ on $T$.






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    As you want to show an isomorphism with a dihedral group, how about constructing a faithful action of your group on the regular $m$-gon? This yields an injection into $D_m$, and because they are both groups of order $2m$ this must be an isomorphism.



    Given that the group is constructed as a semidirect product, another approach is to take subgroups $T,Ssubset D_m$ such that $TcongBbb{Z}_m$ and $ScongBbb{Z}_2$. And show that $D_m=Trtimes_{psi}S$ where $psi: S longrightarrow operatorname{Aut}T$ is the map obtained from $varphi$ through the isomorphisms $TcongBbb{Z}_m$ and $ScongBbb{Z}_2$. Of course you want $psi$ to turn out to be the conjugation action of $S$ on $T$.






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    As you want to show an isomorphism with a dihedral group, how about constructing a faithful action of your group on the regular $m$-gon? This yields an injection into $D_m$, and because they are both groups of order $2m$ this must be an isomorphism.



    Given that the group is constructed as a semidirect product, another approach is to take subgroups $T,Ssubset D_m$ such that $TcongBbb{Z}_m$ and $ScongBbb{Z}_2$. And show that $D_m=Trtimes_{psi}S$ where $psi: S longrightarrow operatorname{Aut}T$ is the map obtained from $varphi$ through the isomorphisms $TcongBbb{Z}_m$ and $ScongBbb{Z}_2$. Of course you want $psi$ to turn out to be the conjugation action of $S$ on $T$.







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    Probably the easiest way to see is to show you have 2 generators, $r$ and $s$ with orders n and 2 respectively. Furthermore, $sr^{-1}=rs$. Hence, it is the dihedral group with 2n elements.






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      Probably the easiest way to see is to show you have 2 generators, $r$ and $s$ with orders n and 2 respectively. Furthermore, $sr^{-1}=rs$. Hence, it is the dihedral group with 2n elements.






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        Probably the easiest way to see is to show you have 2 generators, $r$ and $s$ with orders n and 2 respectively. Furthermore, $sr^{-1}=rs$. Hence, it is the dihedral group with 2n elements.






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        Probably the easiest way to see is to show you have 2 generators, $r$ and $s$ with orders n and 2 respectively. Furthermore, $sr^{-1}=rs$. Hence, it is the dihedral group with 2n elements.







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